<t>I downloaded #25 from the Spooky site. I wanted to give this<br/>
scenario a go as it removes the Midway ships and starts from <br/>
May 1942. Just what I wanted. But something is wrong with<br/>
this scenario.<br/>
<br/>
After an initial carrier skirmish I started to notice<br/>
that the ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[QUOTE]</s><I><s>[i]</s>Originally posted by Oleg Mastruko <e>[/i]</e></I><br/>
<B><s>[B]</s>You don't say which scenario you play and whether it's against AI or PBEM? You also don't say whether you inflicted any damages to IJN CVs?<br/>
<br/>
It's fairly easy to supply PM with AKs ...

<t>Consider the following scenario:<br/>
<br/>
It is late May 1942, playing as the Allies, Yorktown sunk, Lexington heavily damaged at Coral Sea, Port Moresby has<br/>
taken a pounding and its planes are largely grounded due<br/>
to runway damage/fatigue etc.<br/>
<br/>
I would like to try and hold ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[QUOTE]</s><I><s>[i]</s>Originally posted by crsutton <e>[/i]</e></I><br/>
<B><s>[B]</s>I can't speak for anybody else, but I just love playing with all those cool ships.<br/>
<br/>
I am an old wargamer with a lot of cardboard under the bridge and I have always been of the opinion that ...

<r>[*]The notes must be wrong. It was <I><s>[i]</s>Yorktown<e>[/i]</e></I> herself that was lost at Midway.<br/>
<br/>
Isn't Hornet removed from the game because Yorktown is<br/>
needed for the Coral Sea battle?<br/>
<br/>
Not allowing Hornet to enter is effectively allowing Yorktown to fight at ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[QUOTE]</s>It's not what I'm looking for, because the Midway outcome is known beforehand.<e>[/QUOTE]</e></QUOTE> <br/>
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I agree but at least scenario 17 can now be played without<br/>
the Midway ships being present, a totally ahistorical situation.<br/>
<br/>
I agree that the ...

<t>There is a modified scenario 17 on the Spooky website<br/>
- anyone played this? <br/>
<br/>
Seems to be the very thing I have been harping on about. Scenario 17 with historical Midway result. From the release notes:<br/>
<br/>
"The Japanese will not receive CV`s Akagi, Soryu, Kaga, Hiryu, CA ...

Am I being thick: who the hell is Mush Morton?

<t>Interesting range of opinions. Due to the time difference<br/>
I'm still catching up with all the postings, but many people have<br/>
expressed my original thought which is that there isn't really<br/>
a scenario which takes in the Coral Sea and Midway battles,<br/>
but starts from May 1 1942 ...

Yes that's what I thought: I presume that without the Midway carriers the IJN has an impossible task to win the game ??

Gosh, surely we're not saying that losing the Battle of Midway
dooms Japan to defeat, in UV as in the actual war.

<t>yes, true. In fact after I asked this question I started thinking<br/>
that in reality the two big IJN carriers and the two US carriers<br/>
were earmarked for Midway (Lexington would have<br/>
fought in that battle if it hadn't been sunk at Coral Sea). So<br/>
you would have to start with those ...

<t>You can apply that argument to any of the myriad discussions<br/>
on this forum concerning historical accuracy:<br/>
<br/>
"players want to find out what would have happened historically<br/>
if B-17s could bomb at 100 feet."<br/>
<br/>
"players want to find out what would have happened ...

<t>As a new player, I am interested to know what people's views<br/>
are on whether the Midway carriers should be included in a <br/>
given game.<br/>
<br/>
I notice from postings that the most popular scenarios for PBEM<br/>
games seem to be those that cover the entire duration<br/>
of the South ...

<t>I don't think you should write off the game because of <br/>
one messed-up invasion. I mean, if everyone did that<br/>
there'd be no players left. And I should know, I've had the game<br/>
three weeks and you name a mistake - I've made it (God help<br/>
me when I take on a human in PBEM ...

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