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Nuclear War Simulator's fallout model has been used in a scientific study commissioned by Princeton University. The Missiles on Our Land Project has utilized the NWS fallout model to track the different ways seasonal winds could effect the spread of radioactive ash and dust. This project specifically focused on modeling strikes on silo's in Montana, North Dakota, Nebraska, Colorado, and Wyoming.

Here's a look at the interactive map using the NWS model.



An example of the fallout map made using data from Nuclear War Simulator

We are incredibly proud to see Nuclear War Simulator featured in studies like this. The ability to model a nuclear war and fallout accurately was previously only available using proprietary software. With this game commercially available, it is now possible for anyone to authentically model the devastating impact of nuclear weapons from the blast and firestorm, to the resulting fallout that could poison whole continents.

This shows the potential of games as tools to model the world, and serve as teaching tools. We are excited to see how games like this are used in the future to model scientific and social phenomenon.

LiamR wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:23 pm The ability to model a nuclear war and fallout accurately was previously only available using proprietary software.

Codes such as RASCAL, HPAC, RadResponder and others developed by DNA/DTRA or FEMA or others have been available to non-government users for a modest fee for a long time. I think I still have an old version of HPAC laying around. Let's keep it all speculative; folks can argue about code predictions all day long. The reality is unforgiving.

Pretty cool. Does anyone know if the scenario they used is publicly available so we can play along at home? I didn't see mention of this. Ideally I'd like to see the scenario available in the sim's mod.io site.

Looking at the missilesonourland.org I dont understand what theyre getting at. Are they anti ICBM because silos are targets?
If the missiles fly theres no place in the country that'll be safe.

blond_knight_new wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:46 pm Looking at the missilesonourland.org I dont understand what theyre getting at. Are they anti ICBM because silos are targets?
If the missiles fly theres no place in the country that'll be safe.

Oh, I think it's pretty obvious what they're getting at, considering the players organizing this (Scientific American, Columbia U School of Journalism, Princeton U Program on Science and Global Security, and some Native American student-group) are all extreme leftists. They're looking to excite a NIMBY effect from the local residents, such that these missiles are NEVER deployed, ANYWHERE, and the US is left defenceless for whomever their patrons are.

Not sure why Matrix Games thinks this is such a feather in their caps.

dmh0667FU wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:41 pm

blond_knight_new wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:46 pm Looking at the missilesonourland.org I dont understand what theyre getting at. Are they anti ICBM because silos are targets?
If the missiles fly theres no place in the country that'll be safe.

Oh, I think it's pretty obvious what they're getting at, considering the players organizing this (Scientific American, Columbia U School of Journalism, Princeton U Program on Science and Global Security, and some Native American student-group) are all extreme leftists. They're looking to excite a NIMBY effect from the local residents, such that these missiles are NEVER deployed, ANYWHERE, and the US is left defenceless for whomever their patrons are.

Not sure why Matrix Games thinks this is such a feather in their caps.

When you are in one extreme of the spectrum, everyone else seems to be in the oposite extreme...

juntoalmar wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:25 pm

dmh0667FU wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:41 pm

blond_knight_new wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2024 10:46 pm Looking at the missilesonourland.org I dont understand what theyre getting at. Are they anti ICBM because silos are targets?
If the missiles fly theres no place in the country that'll be safe.

Oh, I think it's pretty obvious what they're getting at, considering the players organizing this (Scientific American, Columbia U School of Journalism, Princeton U Program on Science and Global Security, and some Native American student-group) are all extreme leftists. They're looking to excite a NIMBY effect from the local residents, such that these missiles are NEVER deployed, ANYWHERE, and the US is left defenceless for whomever their patrons are.

Not sure why Matrix Games thinks this is such a feather in their caps.

When you are in one extreme of the spectrum, everyone else seems to be in the oposite extreme...

...Said the Castroite fascist on the capitalist Wargaming site.

dmh0667FU wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:41 pm ...and the US is left defenceless for whomever their patrons are.

Not sure why Matrix Games thinks this is such a feather in their caps.

...said the bird from which that very feather was plucked.

dmh0667FU wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:41 pm Not sure why Matrix Games thinks this is such a feather in their caps.

Because the model's readily available and easy for a non-expert to use, so anyone wishing to test the assumptions of the study and the model can do so. That's much better than "trust us", regardless of which side you're on.

dmh0667FU wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:41 pm They're looking to excite a NIMBY effect from the local residents, such that these missiles are NEVER deployed, ANYWHERE, and the US is left defenceless for whomever their patrons are.

Given these are all programmed for existing bases, that's a pretty uphill battle. Deploying a new system means the responsible AFB won't be closing soon (jobs...) and may even see some expansion (more jobs...). The local residents have been living with missiles in their backyards for 50 years now. Did someone say "jobs"?