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My sandboxie, remake of original Red Dragon Descend 2022 which were shared here somewhere
no triggers, no briefings, just pew pew

i want create full battleground around taiwan and south korea
All assets available to accroding to ~wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_ ... by_country

US(all assets US Navy,including CONUS USAF,USMC,USN ,UK ships,Japan,Taiwan,S.Korea,Phillipines,Australia)
vs
China,N.Korea,Russia


No submarines and ASW warfare for better fps

Very hardware demanding scenario, so i tried separate war joining sides,
first few hours, N.Korea vs S.Korea(including ground war)
then Japan vs Russia
after China vs Taiwan(including ground war) and Philipines

Plan which ~done:

• assets placement and missions:
  US assets in theathe
  US Navy
  USMC in ships
  UK Navy
  S.Korea
  Japan
  Taiwan
  Philipines
  Australia
  
  N.Korea
  Russia

Implement:

• USAF in CONUS
  Cargo to S.Korea,Japan,US amphibious assault ships
  China(assets and missions)
  Sides to implement: Vietnam,Singapore,Malasyia,Indonesia

Download https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zt98lF ... sp=sharing

Thanx for sharing! Quite a job...!

Wow! This scenario is huge!!

i would appreciate if someone help making Chinese side

Do you have an OOB for china? Are the missions and bases already created in the scenario?

If so, I can run it through an Excel file and then get a Lua script as an output to quickly get china created.

I have some significant OOB resources and would be happy to help assemble a 2026 OOB for China (and others if it's useful) so long as someone else can generate the missions and LUA, just let me know the parameters of what you're looking for.

Any possibility we could include a version with submarines and ASW? They will be a critical factor in any real-world China scenario, I don't care if my computer catches fire trying to simulate it.

Add full china side Navy/Planes/Rockets ~2026 year
and make mission activation postponed(activation by time around ~4 hrs from start of mission[Check current missions start time]),

(airfields as single unit to save FPS a little bit)
Make missions to attack taiwan, south korea, australia, japan, ~activation by time around 4 hrs from start of mission

i don't followed OOB,
simply googling what each country military equipment will be in 2026
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_ ... by_country

Also US planes on CONUS should be added more

Regarding subs, it will require create and activate ASW missions which will generate a ton of sonobyous,
drastically decreasing fps,
i guess it will be better if subs were created by script(special actions), and if user pressing it, it creates
all available subs(USA,Japan,S.Korea,Australia,Taiwan/China,N.Korea,Russia) in random possitions

Also script for random positions for CSG,ARG,TF maybe

It's going to take a while -- did you retain the Chinese forces from the 2022 scenario? If so it'd make life a lot easier, I'll only have to update and add a bit. If it's from scratch it'll take significantly longer. My aerial OOB should be ok, but I would welcome the help of someone more knowledgeable about China's navy and/or and missiles.

I'll take a look this weekend and start adding stuff.

I'll leave missions and LUA up to the previous poster (or anyone else who volunteers) because I'm not great at missions and don't know where to begin with LUA scripts.

So I've taken a quick look at the scenario now. It looks like you've put some work in on this, which is great, but there are a few things I would ask you to insert to make it more realistic.
-Japan as an independent side under AI control
-Australia as an independent side under AI control
-Submarines/anti-sub warfare
-Dispersed ships

Dmitry, would you mind if I went ahead and updated the original 2022 scenario OOBs myself? Is that something you could live/work with?

I've actually been playing the original one, but I'm not sure how to tweak the missions to fix some errant behavior. I'd be happy to modernize the OOBs of all countries involved if someone could help me tweak the missions/add some randomness and surprises.

Attached above is my first stab at updating the mighty Red Dragon Descends scenario. This should be playable as-is, but I stress that this is a draft. I'm a longtime CMO player but a novice creator. So far I've only updated the orders of battle as I was able, it took long enough but as far as I'm concerned this scenario is why the game exists, so I'll try to put the work in to make it seem plausible.

First and foremost, PLEASE CHECK MY WORK! Spot an obsolete ship? A mission that still starts in 2022? A mislabled squadron? A helicopter without a mission? Let me know.

Questions:
1. Please suggest replacements for obsolete Chinese SAMs and EW equipment. I'm sure China's real IADS network is better than what's there now, but I'm a bit lost in the woods of obscure designations.
2. How can I simulate advanced PLAAF aircraft? I don't expect the database to have the new J-36, but the H-20 has been in the works for a while. How can I put equivalents in?
3. Know a good resource for new PLAN ship names? Wikipedia's list is clearly a couple of years out of date.
4. The original OP put a ton of units into intercept and strike missions with no target. I'm not sure whether these units will take off/engage anything at all -- will they?
5. In the original scenario - which I happened to be playing when DmitryBlade brought it up -- Taiwanese fighters constantly crashed from lack of fuel. Their mission settings all look ok to me, how do I prevent this from happening?
6. Also, China's fighter escorts all came out after the bombers, which made for easy pickings and of course wouldn't really go down that way. How can I ensure the fighters are in front of the raids they're escorting?


Some ideas:
-Should I pull most US/Coalition forces back to the Second Island Chain and advance PLA ships/subs? It'd be more realistic, but I worry about the gameplay -- this scenario will surely run at glacial speed, players might not want to bother with the time it would take to arrive on-station. Is it worth the trade-off?
-Should I delete Vietnam entirely? It's a just sideshow now (I didn't even update its OOB) and might help the game run faster.
-Should I compress China/NK/Russia's missions? Right now they're spread out over 10+ hours. Given the game's slow speed, will people even play until they trigger?

alghblag, are you on the CMO Discord? I have some ideas, thoughts, and possible answers to some of your questions but it probably easier to talk on Discord.

I am now, I'll post something there shortly!

The deep rebuild of this full-scale US-China fight is ready for play-test. Much has changed from the original 2022 scenario with realism in mind. Give it a test-drive!