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Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:25 pm
by Schlonz
Hi all,

I'm currently working on a mod to include South Africa, colonial Portugal, Rhodesia, Uganda (ID14, Pro-West) as well as Tanzania and Angola/FAPLA (ID28, Pro-East).
So far I have a bunch of completely new platoons, implemented platoons from other OOBs (CSME and CSVN) and lots of new formations, sometimes up to Brigade level.
Jungle will be available in (classic) 3D mode as well as seperate mini-mods with bases and icons for the above mentioned nations.

Nevertheless it's still a WIP and needs a lot of fine tuning, playtests and maybe a scenario or two.
I'm also waiting for version 2.40 to be released to see if I need to make any adjustments
(Platoon/Unit ID's, etc.) and to possibly benefit from the new automated LUA scripting.

The OOBs are far from being complete (and most likely will never be), at times focused on a certain event,
and won't cover the complete timeline, but sufficient to create some decent scenarios.
Detailed information about OOBs down to company level mostly range from non-existent to vague,
sometimes different, sometimes contradictory.

When the mod is in a reasonably playable state (spring '25 ?) it'll be available for download....stay tuned.

SADF Ratel family
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Best wishes
Schlonz

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:48 pm
by Jason Petho
OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!

This is amazing!!

FYI, there are some nations that are planned, so if you wanted to use those nations that would make the mod seamless!

37 Uganda

46 Portugal

61 Tanzania

73 Angola

76 Rhodesia

78 South Africa

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:48 am
by Schlonz
Hi Jason,

it would make perfect sense to create those nations in the correspondig pre-planned nation slots, although it would require hours of work for "re-ID-ing" all the units.
Unfortunately I haven't found a modifiable file to activate them. I guess it's coded in the game engine, isn't it?


Rhodesian infantry units
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Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:46 pm
by Jason Petho
Good day!

Yes, it is hard coded into the game, but Petri (Crossroads) might be able to whip up some EXE's for you if you want to change the ID's.

Your call!

This is awesome either way!

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:44 pm
by Schlonz
Good evening!

Despite the initial effort to change the unit IDs, it would be easier to handle with the dedicated nation IDs...especially in the long run.
Of course the .EXE file(s) would then have to be included with the mod.

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 6:15 pm
by Crossroads
Subscribing to this thread. As with todays stream, I will add those nations to CSME 2.40 update for January relase. Cool stuff!

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:49 pm
by Crossroads
Schlonz wrote: Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:25 pm I'm currently working on a mod to include South Africa, colonial Portugal, Rhodesia, Uganda (ID14, Pro-West) as well as Tanzania and Angola/FAPLA (ID28, Pro-East).
Hello Schlonz, just checking: this is how we have those nations in Cold War Alpha release. You want to have Uganda as Side A as well?

Cold War:
XAxisSide, // XUgandaNation
XAlliedSide, // XPortugalNation
XAxisSide, // XTanzaniaNation
XAxisSide, // XAngolaNation
XAlliedSide, // XRhodesiaNation
XAlliedSide, // XSouthAfricaNation

Allied=Side A, Axis=Side B.

One can move those around with Scenario Editor per scenario, too. I think.

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:16 pm
by Jason Petho
Crossroads wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:49 pm One can move those around with Scenario Editor per scenario, too. I think.
Yes! You can assign at will in the editor as well!

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:49 pm
by Schlonz
Hi all,

it's difficult to define the allegiance of Uganda, as they were allied with Lybia and the PLO to fight the Tanzanians,
but I think the general setting should be Side A/Allied (-> opposing Tanzania).

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:43 pm
by Crossroads
Sounds good, I'll define it as such. As Jason confirmed, all nations can be moved about if so chosen.

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:10 pm
by Crossroads
Implemented, available in the next Middle East Update:

Middle East:

Code: Select all

XAlliedSide, // 37 XUgandaNation
XAlliedSide, // 46 XPortugalNation
XAxisSide, // 61 XTanzaniaNation
XAxisSide, // 73 XAngolaNation
XAlliedSide, // 76 XRhodesiaNation
XAlliedSide, // 78 XSouthAfricaNation
For notekeeping: I did not touch the Cold War code, Uganda is Side B there. Can be changed later.

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 6:39 pm
by Schlonz
Thanks Petri, great news.

Meanwhile my fingertips hurt from typing in all the new unit IDs, not only for the new units, but - as I only realized later - for all the
generic units that are necessary to create a new OOB from scratch (HQs, commanders,etc.).
Anyway, it's getting ahead.


Portuguese Infantry

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Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2024 8:21 pm
by Jason Petho
These are looking amazing!!

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:10 pm
by Schlonz
SADF Casspir family
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Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:08 am
by Hoplite1963
Looking really good. Have you looked at the Squad Battles "Africa At War" mod as a source to draw on for building scenarios? There are also a number of conversions that can be made from SP MBT as well.

:D

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:13 pm
by Schlonz
Hi Ian,

thanks for the hint, but I'll leave that to more talented scenario designers.
I have a few historical scenarios in mind and this will take enough time.

Rhodesian (g)Unimogs
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Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 3:55 am
by The Almighty Turtle
It looks really good, and I imagine this might help revive this old game. I look forward to trying it when I get the CS series.

But one thing that came to mind: perhaps it would be more fitting to have Tanzania be pro-West and Uganda pro-East? I know that Idi Amin's regime used a good portion of Libyan troops and "Arab/Muslim Legion" forces from Gaddafi, and of course the Entebbe Raid by the Israelis was one of the defining military conflicts of the period. Would a pro-West Uganda be able to be on the same side as Libya?

But I digress. Thanks for this.

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2024 4:43 am
by Jason Petho
perhaps it would be more fitting to have Tanzania be pro-West and Uganda pro-East?
Keep in mind, you can set the side (either A or B) in the scenario editor. So the initial sides are mostly just to code "something".

Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:40 am
by Schlonz
Hi all,

finished the SADF infantry today, just a few more Portuguese vehicles and then the graphics are done.

SADF Infantry

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New Jeeps (M38)

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Re: Subsahara Mod

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:58 pm
by Jason Petho
That is just AWESOME!!