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Is research capped at 10 planes?

Yes, 10 complete frames,engines and parts for the type you are researching. Note a twin engined type will need 2 engines each even in research.
Any more is a waste.
Obviously you can research more than one type at a time, again up to a max of 10.

The best part of this game has been removed.

Best to leave this game on the shelf or am I missing something?

Research was developed and modified by harley/Hard Sarge after 1.02 but before the new crew took over. We never touched it, so I don't know how to answer your question. I do know that the Axis AI has a crap ton of jets of all types flying by late 1944 in the campaign games. I was thinking that whatever the status of research it was overly easy.

Its been awhile since I played but my understanding is that players agreed upon a good set of rules to balance research.

What are the effects of the new research changes?

Is there a list of expected arrival dates of planes if they had 10 planes on research?

I'm not sure on the dates you could possibly get advanced aircraft into service.
Obviously you will not be able to research all the types available so different players will have personal choices at the front.
I have read of 190D coming into service 3/44 with the 109K not far behind.
In my own experience over 2 long campaigns where I took notes I have had these results:
He219A2 20/11/43 and 10/43
109G5AS 11/43
110G4R7 11/43 and 9/11/43
Me262 6/44
190D9 4/44
Ju88G 2/44 and 2/3/44
109G14 4/44
Ta154 5/44

Not all of these types had a full research allotment, especially the 262 and 154 each needing 4 engines. Also some of the larger airframe/engine plants take a long time to convert to the new types.
Also I tend to favour the NJG for getting new types into service.

Gone are the days of 190D, Ta152 and 262 swarming over the skies of the Reich in Dec '43!

mark dolby wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:40 pm Yes, 10 complete frames,engines and parts for the type you are researching. Note a twin engined type will need 2 engines each even in research.
Any more is a waste.
Obviously you can research more than one type at a time, again up to a max of 10.

I do not know what you mean that Any more is a waste.

If you had the equipment to research 11 A/C of the same type do you lose the extra one you produced?

Or would the extra equipment just sit in stock as there is a hard limit of only 10 A/C being researched?

DavidFaust wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:34 am

mark dolby wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:40 pm Yes, 10 complete frames,engines and parts for the type you are researching. Note a twin engined type will need 2 engines each even in research.
Any more is a waste.
Obviously you can research more than one type at a time, again up to a max of 10.

I do not know what you mean that Any more is a waste.

If you had the equipment to research 11 A/C of the same type do you lose the extra one you produced?

Or would the extra equipment just sit in stock as there is a hard limit of only 10 A/C being researched?

10 is the maximum you can research that will give you a research bonus. The whole aircraft is considered 'used up' for this purpose. If you produce 11, 12 etc complete aircraft of a type not yet in production then the parts, frame and engine will go into stock reserves. A waste for frames, negligible use of parts as you have lots of parts factories whilst having spare engines is useful, you have not much wiggle space on engine plants it's mostly better to use them for production aircraft before spares.