brianG v tyronec anatomy of disaster all welcome

[BrianG]

8th tank 77 mp's to supply.

this was before beta change as to supply received

[BrianG]

also staying too late, attack on south spearhead

[BrianG]

6th Army hq escapes

hey THESE are the Russian highlights!

[BrianG]

final north

And on this day the tanks rested.

well only slowly moved forward conserving fuel

[BrianG]

middle

i thought he had well rested tanks and retreated. or did i lose track of one of his corp. I read he moved some elsewhere.

[BrianG]

kiev final

lots of trapped green Army troops and no escape.

[BrianG]

HQ escape escapades

I escape 2 more Army hq's.

3 are sitting in position to be routed east when the Germans move.

[BrianG]

final Odessa

I surround German spear tip which ruined any possible Odessa defense.

These units set the stage for all subsequent mayhem. They won the war on turn 3.

[chaos45]

I would agree that the extended pocket in the south is ridiculous. I have mentioned it several times to the patch team that it needed to be fixed......and years later nothing....its also something they could fix very easily by just changing soviet unit positions slightly just enough to block that final reserve groups encirclement as the Germans usually just barely have the MP to pull it off.

The only good thing is only German players that practice the opening a fair amount seem to get it done successfully most the time.....sadly the German player can practice the opening over and over again until they figure out basically down to the MP/move where units need to go and Soviet player has zero ability to influence the turn 1 devastation.

Its the same old problem with the games combat system...unlike historical where the Germans got hit with a decent bloody nose early on in the south it ends up being a cake walk for Germans easily smashing the entire soviet southern fronts. This also contributes to the snowball effect of ahistorical german advances in 1941...as historically the Soviet southern front put up extremely strong resistance and was only destroyed/beaten when flanked by AG Center.

So in effect the Soviets end up playing most of 1941 short around 500k men that historically werent encircled and destroyed in the first week...as well the Axis end up take hundreds of thousands of casualties less than historical overall in the south....as the Romanians were butchered trying to take Odessa historically...yet in the game it falls pathetically easily.

This is stuff the patch team could I think easily fix and I have told them some fixes to make the southern soviet area abit stronger and historical, but no changes were ever made.

[BrianG]

its a bird, its a plane its a ___________?

Its a lot a trapped troops

[BrianG]

free upgrade?

[BrianG]

kiev final positions

[BrianG]

final south

[BrianG]

final middle

i am assuming leapfrog corps and at any time a potential hq build

[BrianG]

final north

germans approach, really need to try and slow down way before here.

alas nothing stops the onslaught

[BrianG]

German air delivery

I am still trying to figure out why the Russians can now see how many tons of supply the Germans have successfully flown forward to their troops.

Some fog.

more like a very honest crystal ball

needs to be fixed.

[BrianG]

11 panzer is denied the river.

A timid attack

It was here I made another error. I had a 9000 sized cav division with enough mp's to cut off the 11 panzer and his buddy. Something i normally do even as a sacrifice which this would have been. I will soon regret the decision not too.

[BrianG]

countering at Leningrad.

the attack lineup versus German 1st division

why is this battle taking place 5 weeks into the invasion.

[BrianG]

A victory

and a turkey shoot as German bombers come unescorted to the fun.

[BrianG]

final north