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ORIGINAL: Th30n

Hey Vic,

I know you are busy, and it is stated that open beta works only with Matrix version, but I'm still reporting the error on GOG version for future reference.

I've applied the open beta v1.10.04 over the GOG v1.09. After launching the game, and getting to the menu I get the following fatal error
"No valid serial found. VR Designs error-code: 22. Please go to matrixgames helpdesk if you need assistance"

Anyone knows if there's a way to get the GOG version running with open beta?

ORIGINAL: eddieballgame

I am wondering if applying all the 'beta files' minus the 'exe' file, will still allow for many of the updates to work.

not sure how much of the 'beta' is actually being implemented.

Changelist for v1.10
-Added option to hide some map aesthetical gfx details to speed up map scroll speed by about 33% extra

I now have the full patch applied without problems.

Th30n wrote: ↑Fri Dec 17, 2021 5:03 am For what it's worth, I've managed to circumvent the serial check rather trivially in my GOG installation, so it seems I now have the full patch applied without problems. I'd rather not explain the steps here, as I feel the same steps might actually be used to circumvent illegally obtained Matrix version.

ernieschwitz wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 6:51 pm Not scammy actually.

GoG and Steam both work like a "rental service". You "rent" the game from them, and they have the serial and keys. Matrix lets you buy the whole package. So you "own" it. The difference is that you would probably not be looked at with very kind eyes if you painted a rental different colors and so on, but if you owned it, no-one would care. To protect other players against people doing "fishy" things, with the files, the "rental service" checks to see if you applied a "paintjob" and if you have, overwrites it.

That is the reason why you are locked out of beta.

eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:35 pm I don't get the rental reference per GOG & many Steam games as well.
Once you download the game file/files & save them (GOG)...no renting is required.
Many Steam games can be saved elsewhere & accessed without Steam running.

ernieschwitz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:53 am

eddieballgame wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:35 pm I don't get the rental reference per GOG & many Steam games as well.
Once you download the game file/files & save them (GOG)...no renting is required.
Many Steam games can be saved elsewhere & accessed without Steam running.

Do you get a serial? They keep it, hence, not a real purchase, just a rental.

Voker57 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:01 pm The only reason why you can't use open beta is that nobody bothered to create an executable free of the "DRM" for open beta.

Don_Kiyote wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:39 am

Voker57 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:01 pm The only reason why you can't use open beta is that nobody bothered to create an executable free of the "DRM" for open beta.

My guess about the reason, is that it has something to do with the publisher's agreement with GoG. It may be nothing more complicated than that GoG doesnt have the manpower to update all their titles with beta versions. GoG is a secondary distributor, and they may have agreed to manage updates to SE themselves. Given that the company has a huge library with a low margin, I assume, they may not have the capability to do that.

Perhaps for any game.

I did write in GoG support about this. There is an option in GoG Galaxy for 'Bets Channels', which alas does nothing.

...I mean, if they had even around 2000 titles a month to update, that would still be really hard for a small company to manage.

Voker57 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:01 pm GOG does not need to take any extra steps, beta patches for GOG could just be released on the forum, like they do for Matrix version