Next patch release date?

[chaos45]

Any idea on the next patch release date?

As my understanding is the TRP next update is pinned to when the office patch also releases.

[Brian72]

Would like an update on this as well

[OldCrowBalthazor]

It's coming soon a little bird told me.
As far as I know, all the changes made for a bunch of the SC games have been submitted to Matrix.
Matrix decides when version releases are made on behalf of the various game developers and they are always mum.
I'm on hold with 3 SC multi-player matches till the new versions are rolled out. TRP-World, SC-WW1 (Shadow of the Tsars) and SC-Pacific (Day of Infamy).

[Platoonist]

From my perspective I'd rather hear nothing from the devs or Matrix about a future patch than be pledged a "soon" and the wait ends up dragging on for months anyway. Unless they are 4imprint certain about the "soon" bit.

[Taxman66]

https://youtu.be/4NwP3wes4M8?si=bOajIk9TewQ3BnxX

[Tanaka]

From my perspective I'd rather hear nothing from the devs or Matrix about a future patch than be pledged a "soon" and the wait ends up dragging on for months anyway. Unless they are 4imprint certain about the "soon" bit.

You must be talking about some other game

Soon...

[Platoonist]

You must be talking about some other game

Can't imagine which.

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[Taxman66]

"Soon" is such a lovely ambiguous word.

To be honest I'm really impressed and grateful at how well these games are supported, and continued to be supported in the case of the older WiE game. The developers' continued active involvement deserves imense praise. So to them I say "Thank you very much, I'm very grateful."

[Tanaka]

You must be talking about some other game

Can't imagine which.


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You guys keep me sane! I am going to make this my new sig! If you don't post this over there I will!

[gamer78]

It's coming soon a little bird told me.
As far as I know, all the changes made for a bunch of the SC games have been submitted to Matrix.
Matrix decides when version releases are made on behalf of the various game developers and they are always mum.
I'm on hold with 3 SC multi-player matches till the new versions are rolled out. TRP-World, SC-WW1 (Shadow of the Tsars) and SC-Pacific (Day of Infamy).

For SC-WW1 (Shadow of the Tsars) it is impossible to save design. Too late start in RCW and events -and info- too much focused on French and US involvement. But still improvement from first design in WW'1 at Battlefront.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

It's coming soon a little bird told me.
As far as I know, all the changes made for a bunch of the SC games have been submitted to Matrix.
Matrix decides when version releases are made on behalf of the various game developers and they are always mum.
I'm on hold with 3 SC multi-player matches till the new versions are rolled out. TRP-World, SC-WW1 (Shadow of the Tsars) and SC-Pacific (Day of Infamy).

For SC-WW1 (Shadow of the Tsars) it is impossible to save design. Too late start in RCW and events -and info- too much focused on French and US involvement. But still improvement from first design in WW'1 at Battlefront.

The whole scenario Shadow of the Tsars has had a complete revamp. I can't give the details but I have been testing it.
All I can say is reserve judgement till you see the changes, which are extensive.

[OldCrowBalthazor]

You must be talking about some other game

Can't imagine which.


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Haha "Endless patch vigil".........

[BiteNibbleChomp]

"Soon" is such a lovely ambiguous word.

To be honest I'm really impressed and grateful at how well these games are supported, and continued to be supported in the case of the older WiE game. The developers' continued active involvement deserves imense praise. So to them I say "Thank you very much, I'm very grateful."

Cheers mate, it's always nice to read these sort of comments!

"Soon" is unfortunately about the best I can offer at this point - I haven't been given a date, and as others have noted this can be out of our hands sometimes.

For SC-WW1 (Shadow of the Tsars) it is impossible to save design. Too late start in RCW and events -and info- too much focused on French and US involvement. But still improvement from first design in WW'1 at Battlefront.

Shadow was very heavily built on the SC2 original (as a starting point, I transcribed all of the old code over to the new engine), which did focus quite a lot on the foreign intervention side of things. The campaign is getting an extensive rework in the update (the changelog is over 100 lines long!), and as part of this I've sought to bring the foreign intervention much closer to its historical importance. There's about two months of work in the update for Shadow alone, I'm hoping these will result in a greatly improved campaign, and if after the update you still feel there's things that could be made better, please do let me know!

The start date is something I spent a lot of time thinking about both in making the campaign originally and also when I did the rework, this will be staying as is, with 1919/01/02 as the first turn. It's a question without a really good answer as the RCW never really had a "start date" the way say the ACW did in Fort Sumter or WWII with the invasion of Poland. Starting with the October Revolution works well enough for the Bolsheviks, but their opposition didn't really exist as any sort of organised movement until sometime in 1918 - the Whites even later in the war were more a collection of more localised revolts with a common enemy than a faction in the sense of the Axis or even the collection of nations that fought Bulgaria in the 2nd Balkan War.
A start date in 1918 is also awkward because of the binary faction system SC uses (ie every nation is either Red, White or neutral) and the presence of Germany - the Faustschlag operation in early Ukraine was a war against Lenin's government, but the Germans are also fighting the Western powers at the same time, and those Western powers themselves were intervening in the RCW on the White side. I did consider handling the (WWI) Western Front with some sort of on-map-but-neutral in the vein of the Mexican events in ACW (where the French puppet state seizes increasing parts of Mexico as the game goes on), but the whole thing becomes quite complicated very quickly, and it's not super important to the RCW anyway. And that's before considering the various movements that fought on once Germany surrendered to the Allies - what side do they go on?
The SC2 version got around this by starting on 1918/11/11 and taking some liberties with how some nations were represented (Poland being neutral until 1920 is a good example), but this left the Ukraine as neutral territory, with the Soviet invasion in January 1919 being tied to a DE event. The problem here is that the overriding Bolshevik strategy in the war is to defeat each White power in turn before any one of them can become too powerful. Because historically the Bolsheviks were the ones to invade Ukraine, the Bolshevik player has to be the one to make the decision to invade, yet it will never be an optimal strategy for them to do so when the alternative is to use whatever forces would be involved against a different White power instead (such as the Baltics or Kolchak).
Pushing the start date back to January gets around both of those issues, as the post-WWI-armistice confusion had mostly settled down to two recognisable enough sides (and the occasional exceptions, such as the Freikorps, can be dealt with through events), and by putting the start on the date of the invasion of Ukraine, I can set Ukraine as an active White power rather than a neutral. The front lines between the Bolsheviks and Whites didn't change a lot between November 1918 and January 1919, so very little of the RCW is actually lost in doing this, and I ultimately felt that was the best of the available options.

- BNC

[stormbringer3]

It's too bad that the patch release date is so up in the air. I bought WitP and my understanding is that its' first patch is after the other titles. That surprises me, the game has been out over two months. I own all the other titles and they've been patched multiple times.

[Tanaka]

It's too bad that the patch release date is so up in the air. I bought WitP and my understanding is that its' first patch is after the other titles. That surprises me, the game has been out over two months. I own all the other titles and they've been patched multiple times.

Yeah there seems to be something going on with Matrix as several games are waiting on patches to be released...

[ElvisJJonesRambo]

What's in the potential patch?
AA tech to work in Forts?

[OldCrowBalthazor]

What's in the potential patch?
AA tech to work in Forts?

That I hope so! Can't remember how much money I spent on AA upgrades on fortifications and it didn't seem to help squat....

[gamer78]

Thanks BiteNibbleChomp for detailed historical background; design and OldCrowBalthazor for AAR's. I've finished again 4 total campaigns US&Mexican War with both sides and Chile naval conflict this week. All is very good and interesting to read.

[Taxman66]

Even I think that 3 weeks is pushing the boundries of 'soon'.

[Platoonist]

Even I think that 3 weeks is pushing the boundries of 'soon'.

There's another patch I'm looking forward to where the word 'soon' was issued seven months ago. Soon. A term perfect for your equivocal, amorphous and disposable needs.