Can Free France CP be used to transport BP from Australia to USSR

[davidc]

1941
France conquered so Free France alive and at war with Germany.
Germany at war with the USSR.
I set a CW trade agreement to send 3 build points to USSR.
When it comes to production, MWIF always sends them from London.
I can change two of them to go from Calcutta and Bombay.
But I can't change the other one to go from Melbourne.
There are CPs enough everywhere I think but some of them are Free French.
Is this allowed?

If it is, I would appreciate if someone could get this to happen and share the steps.

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[eouellet]

The Free French CPs should not be an issue here. In 1939, the convoy system automatically re-route the CW trade oil point from Persia using French CP (Red Sea and Med), and screwing up the chain from the French resource point in Indochina to France, even if there are free CW CPs going around Africa to bring the traded Persian oil point to the UK. Changing the automated setup brings it back to using the French CPs.

The convoy system has a lot of undocumented (to the players) automated and unchangeable rules that are actually preventing the system to act as per WIF rules. These were introduce to facilitate convoy calculations, but are causing also all kinds of problems. This is an issue that has been raised a long time ago, and numerous times.

I suspect your problem is because of one of those undocumented rules contradicting WIF rules.

[rkr1958]

Was France conquered/surrendered or Vichyed? If the former then the CW and Free France do not cooperate until Paris is liberated and Free French CPs can't be used by the CW. If the later then a bug as they can be used.

[rkr1958]

Was France conquered/surrendered or Vichyed? If the former then the CW and Free France do not cooperate until Paris is liberated and Free French CPs can't be used by the CW. If the later then a bug as they can be used.

I see that you have installed Vichy and that the relation form shows the CW and Free France cooperate. So the CW should be able to use the Free French CP.

So, I'm confident that your problem sending the BP is not the Free French CP but MIWF stubbornness when trying to do this.

Honestly, I typically get around such stubbornness by handling such trade agreements and routes "offline". That is, by ensuring that I have "spare" CPs to send such a BP, not using or saving the BP and then editing the file to increase (in this case) Soviet production by 1 BP. While a pain, much less so than spending all that time trying to deal with MWIF stubbornness and general failing (i.e., eventually giving up).

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[Centuur]

Was France conquered/surrendered or Vichyed? If the former then the CW and Free France do not cooperate until Paris is liberated and Free French CPs can't be used by the CW. If the later then a bug as they can be used.

Not true. French and CW convoy points can (and MWIF will) transport each others resources and build points, even if they don't cooperate.

[rkr1958]

Was France conquered/surrendered or Vichyed? If the former then the CW and Free France do not cooperate until Paris is liberated and Free French CPs can't be used by the CW. If the later then a bug as they can be used.

Not true. French and CW convoy points can (and MWIF will) transport each others resources and build points, even if they don't cooperate.

Thanks for the correction. Didn't know that.

[davidc]

Thanks everyone.

I thought it shouldn't be an issue.
I was manually adding a USSR BP every turn.

I'll repost in Tech Support as a bug.

[ssiviour]

I don't think this is a bug, reply is in your other thread