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Disappearing food

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:16 am
by Harrybanana
As the CP I invaded Holland and captured it's capital causing it's surrender. On my way to the capital I captured it's food hex without combat. Fortunately the food hex was not destroyed. However, now a couple turns later the food hex has disappeared. Is this normal or a bug?


RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:59 am
by FrankHunter
Its normal. There's a small chance every turn of captured food hexes becoming exhausted.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 4:56 am
by Harrybanana
Well if it is a small chance then I guess I am just unlucky because the same thing happened with the food hex I captured in Belgium and we are still very early into the game.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 7:06 am
by FrankHunter
Its more the other way around, since the roll is made every turn you'd have to be really lucky not to lose your captured food hexes eventually.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:18 am
by hjaco
As I understand HarryBanana's entry he made a conquest of Holland with the food resource still intact converting all dutch hexes to German control.

Afterwards the food resource at some time became depleted.

In my experience resources never gets depleted that way? I for one have not experienced such a happening?

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:23 am
by Harrybanana
ORIGINAL: FrankHunter

Its more the other way around, since the roll is made every turn you'd have to be really lucky not to lose your captured food hexes eventually.

Is the roll made every "turn" Frank. or every impulse? You may be right that captured food hexes will disappear eventually; but in my case I had both of them in the last impulse of the Nov/Dec turn and they were both gone by the Jan/Feb strategic phase. In other words they both went pretty quick. Belgium had not yet surrendered, but Holland had.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:24 am
by Harrybanana
ORIGINAL: hjaco

As I understand HarryBanana's entry he made a conquest of Holland with the food resource still intact converting all dutch hexes to German control.

Afterwards the food resource at some time became depleted.

In my experience resources never gets depleted that way? I for one have not experienced such a happening?

You have it right Hjaco.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:35 pm
by FrankHunter
Is the roll made every "turn" Frank. or every impulse?

Every turn

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:59 pm
by Harrybanana
But Frank, is it possible to deplete captured food hexes in conquered countires, or just unconquered countries?

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:33 am
by FrankHunter
Both. Whether the country was conquered or whether the food hex was just a conquered hex of a country still fighting there is a 20% chance each turn of that food hex being depleted.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:09 am
by FrankHunter
I should add that when barraging a hex that contains food there is a chance of depleting that food based on the number of barrage factors firing.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:49 am
by FM WarB
Making use of captured food was difficult, historically. The winter of 1917/18 was known as "Turnip Winter" in Germany. I guess there's a reason I never liked turnips on Thanksgiving. m

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:58 am
by HannoMeier
But some countries were integrated in the economies, right?
 
Like Belgium into Germany => The food stays (and is not marked as captured and thereby divided by 3). Also after the surrender of Romania, the non-dissapeared food hexes are integrated into Austria-Hungary (with full production - again not divied by 3). I think also Holland would be incorporated into Germany's economy.
 
Regards, Hanno
 
 

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:21 am
by FM WarB
Questions:
If a captured food hex is depeted can it regenerate later?
does divided by three mean one out of three captured food hexes are useful?

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:39 pm
by Harrybanana
ORIGINAL: FM WarB

Questions:
If a captured food hex is depeted can it regenerate later?

No.
does divided by three mean one out of three captured food hexes are useful?

Although I think the rule book says that captured food and resources are divided by 3, in fact they are only divided by 2. However, once a country surrenders it's food and resources are received at full without division. However, apparently the food hexes are still subject to being depleted.

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:03 pm
by FM WarB
All food hexes except one in Romania are rated at one. One food hex in Romania is rated at two. How does depletion affect this hex?

RE: Disappearing food

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:52 pm
by SMK-at-work
Bump - info on food being depleted