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Although many of you already know this, here's the official announcement for the forum.

Steel Panthers: World At War General's Edition is available for digital download and/or CD delivery through our online store. Please click on the Store link in the top bar and choose the region of the world that corresponds to you. Thanks for all your interest and enthusiasm. Enjoy!

Regards,

- Erik

Is it v8.20+4campaigns??[&:]

[8D][&o]THIS IS JUST GREAT! I just saw this, and this is great news. This is something we have all been waiting for for a long time! I've gotta go so I can order my copy now. Thanks Team Matrix, you guys truly listen to your fans!

ORIGINAL: tigerblow

Is it v8.20+4campaigns??[&:]

It is 8.2 + the 4 MEGAcampaigns.

And this is NOT for free, but anyway at a good discount compared with you buying the 4 MCs separately.

This looks very tempting...

But have the campaigns been modified in any way? I mean in the 'save game' department. I have the LV MC but didn't even bother finishing the first scenario - the inability to save when I want to in a single-player game annoys me to no end, I always avoid games which force this kind of frustration on me (everytime I know it beforehand that is, but about the MCs I know ).

???

When have any of the Mega Campaigns ever prohibited anyone ever from saving at any point during the course of playing one?

Now, did you mean exit WITHOUT saving so you could endlessly restart thus thwarting the "enforced" save when exiting?

This one element might be frustrating to some, but I have always liked how Steel Panthers Mega Campaigns enforce a brutal honesty level.

If you screw up a battle, you get to deal with it.

Kinda refreshing actually.

ORIGINAL: Hexed Gamer
Now, did you mean exit WITHOUT saving so you could endlessly restart thus thwarting the "enforced" save when exiting?

Exactly. FYI, it is still very possible to do by backing up the relevant files, it's just too much work to try and get some fun out of the game this way.

ORIGINAL: Hexed Gamer
This one element might be frustrating to some, but I have always liked how Steel Panthers Mega Campaigns enforce a brutal honesty level.

If you screw up a battle, you get to deal with it.

Kinda refreshing actually.

I'm very glad you like it this way, but this is totally irrelevant. Everytime someone brings up the issue of having the option to save anywhere, in any game that doesn't have it, there are holier-than-yous willing to show how much greater and cooler they are.
How I play with what I bought with my own money is nobody's business. If some can't refrain from cheating if given the option, that's their problem. But I'm not replaying a whole scenario because I misclicked in this rather clunky interface, and I definitely won't deal with it.

I've asked a simple question - whether the campaigns have a save-anywhere feature in this €65 excl. VAT package or not - not for people to judge me.

Hey guys ive played the lost victories first three scenarios at a friends and i love the concept and thats why im very interested in buying this generals edition but i always kinda got mad in lost victories cause i got all victory hexes BUT then in the next scenario i had to RETAKE these victory points ???

is this intentionally ? its kinda frustrating if you made a lot of sacrifices to take a hill and then you have to take it again ( the absurditys of war , but plz not in the game )

Neofit, you are the sensitive one, I was wondering if you had misworded your question.

I once got 116% on a win in Civilization simply because I played each and every battle over and over till I won it, simply to confuse a buddy when I showed him the score

Come on lighten up dude.

I don't care squat what you do with your purchase. Sit a can of coke on it if it floats your boat.

You asked if the game can be saved anywhere any time.
If you had ever played a Mega Campaign, you would already know. It will TELL you it is auto saved on exit. There is no way to exit the game WITHOUT saving. And as you can exit whenever you feel like it the second you feel like it, the answer is therefore a resounding YES you can save the game anywhere any time.

If your question had been "how do I return to a previous moment in the campaign, so I can re attempt an action I botched?", it would have been a lot easier answering you.

Thanks for your kind response though, and good luck finding out your next question's answer.

I would like to buy the General edition, but I bought one of the Mega Campaign before and I could never get it to work. If this one going to be a simple load to the computer and work with out having to modify a bunch of file ?

ORIGINAL: VikingNo2

I would like to buy the General edition, but I bought one of the Mega Campaign before and I could never get it to work. If this one going to be a simple load to the computer and work with out having to modify a bunch of file ?

It´s a complete installer. All MCs and SPWAW are installed in one run. No hazzles at all.

ORIGINAL: Hexed Gamer
You asked if the game can be saved anywhere any time.
If you had ever played a Mega Campaign, you would already know. It will TELL you it is auto saved on exit. There is no way to exit the game WITHOUT saving. And as you can exit whenever you feel like it the second you feel like it, the answer is therefore a resounding YES you can save the game anywhere any time.

If you only misunderstood my question, there was no need to bring my playstyle down. No need to get philosophical either. Of course one can exit anytime, but since saving is tied to the exit action, it is very far from the definition of 'save anytime', for anyone not trying to play with words that is. I spoke about "the inability to save when I want to", which excludes any ties to exiting the game. I don't think it' so hard to understand that I was about the way the non-MC SPWAW played, save anywhere anytime, and persistents save files.

ORIGINAL: Hexed Gamer
If your question had been "how do I return to a previous moment in the campaign, so I can re attempt an action I botched?", it would have been a lot easier answering you.

Here we go again, botched shmotched. Ever tried returning to an older save to try a different approach, out of curiosity, not necessarily because you 'botched' something? Or do you have unlimited free time and the will to replay the exact same things until the branching point over and over again? OK, you're great and I'm a wuss. Can we consider the matter settled now?

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So please, can anyone from the dev team confirm that the included campaigns work like old ones concerning savegames in SP mode, i.e. with only one forced save when exiting the game? It's a make or break issue for me and €65+ is a bit too much to try and find out. Thanks.

Hmm, would it help if I told you I actually was one of those that helped develope one of the Mega Campaigns?

Mega Campaigns only come with one way to save. it saves on exit.

This can be circumvented if you don't mind the fuss.

Simply save the game each turn, exit the game, give the save folder a unique name. There you have a restore point.

I did that all last summer with MC-SE.

Now if you are willing to turn off the attitude and just ask your questions without resorting to attacking the people that might be trying to aid you, you might actually get someplace.

Otherwise, I think you will find most anyone here won't care to aid you.

It took a lot of work to make 8.2, they are giving us 8.2 for free. And it hasn't been easy or without minor glitches.
I think the last thing anyone wants to hear, is a hostile poster complaining about a part of the game that functions exactly as it is supposed to.

Thank you, will be placing my order shortly[:D]

anyone who can reply to my question about the victory points ?

The VH location thing is a bit of a shock initially to a gamer.

But sometimes forces will fight for a piece of ground and then not really be able to effectively retain it. Thus your forces might get pulled back to re organise.

Now on a game related note, the guy making the game will naturally have to craft the flow of the battle based on a number of assumptions.

That's my take on it at least.

I am just now setting off on a fresh go of Lost Victories myself interestingly enough. I am 12 turns into the first battle too. Doing actually fairly well to boot.

With the MCs if you do very well in a battle you do indeed get recognition though. And trust me, if you mangle your battle, you can expect to spend the next battle saying sorry to yer boss.

The actual start points though, are all designed to allow you to make a logical progression through the game. Those locations were not pointless to your campaign.

well finish the first scenario and obtain all VHs and then play the second one (if you have a victory) youll c what i mean , the hill in the north with the watchtower that was very hard to get is again in enemy hands and bunkers\guns i destroyed are all of a sudden back alive

Oh I know, layed LV a couple ot times already actually.

Yes, I can see maybe taking land over agains sometimes, but I have to confess, pillboxes and such suddenly unblowed up does tend to harm suspension of disbelief.

Good news is there is a looooong road ahead of you yet, and some of the battles will blow you away.

Learn how to use your armour well. You have not seen rough till you try to stop a KV1 with a PZ III.

My money is on the KV1, though the Pz III might get lucky or the player just sneaky.

The Russians definitely had superior armour to the Germans to begin with, now if only their tactics, supply, and morale had been as good. I personally will be interested in seeing how my players cope with my WWII campaign as infantry AT against German designs. It promises to be interesting since I only think one of my players appreciates just how much difficulty there was in killing a tank whilst on foot.

It´s a complete installer. All MCs and SPWAW are installed in one run. No hazzle

I'm downloading SPWAWGE as I write this and I'm a little worried about this "No hazzle" instalation. How do we upgrade? with a patch? what happens if it isn't possible to make a patch like from 8.1 to 8.2? Do we get stuck?
It would be better to have the main game separated from the 4 MC so we could download the free game (updated version) and then apply the paid MC.