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ORIGINAL: Franklin Nimitz

...have you seen this site?

Commonwealth OOB's

It says "1939-45", but it looks like most of it covers the start of the war and early war period. Very detailed breakdown of units down to battalion/regt/bty by location and command.

It makes me want to create a "master OOB" scenario template. hmm...
Actually, I've kind of started, I have the 1st thru 3rd UK ID's, with a template set up for yer basic CW infantry div. There will be some approximations necessary, as I don't believe the estabs in the game would cover all the British Empire in 1939-41.

I'll probably poke along with this some, though I'm going to avoid units that were in N Africa as I would be duplicating effort with respect to patch 3.

Also, will these estabs/scenarios be playable in BFTB? It'd be really nice to use the force lists on the most up-to-date version of the game engine. And....it'd suck to put a lot of effort into a master OOB for a game that's on it's way out to pasture once BFTB comes out. EDIT: Nevermind, I forgot I already asked that question.

As long as I'm asking for the moon, my "fantasy" is that Panther focuses on refining the game engine, and broaden the estab list to be as universal as possible*, and theoretically the Player community could develop a comprehensive OOB for all combatants. If the early war estabs provided in CotA are usable in BftB, there'd be a gap for the 42-43 war years, but I realize that's more on Panther's already-full plate [;)].

*I would be willing to provide time to conduct research to help with creating more estabs. If it would/could be used, I'd like to help. Same for playtesting: PM me, I'd love to get involved in some manner.

ORIGINAL: Franklin Nimitz

...have you seen this site?

Commonwealth OOB's

It says "1939-45", but it looks like most of it covers the start of the war and early war period. Very detailed breakdown of units down to battalion/regt/bty by location and command.

*I would be willing to provide time to conduct research to help with creating more estabs. If it would/could be used, I'd like to help. Same for playtesting: PM me, I'd love to get involved in some manner.

ORIGINAL: Arjuna

Please contact be direct "dave[at]panthergames[dot]com" once BFTB is released.

ORIGINAL: GoodGuy
But expecting someone to contact you more than 2 years after he had posted his offer (and request for PM), is kinda optimistic, to say the least.

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl

Speaking of interest, I'm working on a 35x31 Anzio map.

Care to have a look at it?

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl


Franklin Nimitz, if you come across this post, could you please update your link above (if possible)? As is, it's broken.

"By the time the First Special Service Force was pulled out of the line in the middle of January, it had an impressive record. After securing Majo, it drove the enemy from Hills 1109 and 1270, and other Fifth Army formations cleared the Germans from east of Cassino. Due in large part to this elite Canadian-American unit, the Fifth Army was finally ready to launch its long-awaited offensive on Rome. The Force was now sent to Anzio.

The First Special Service Force arrived at the beachhead on February 1. A few reinforcements left it with a combat strength of 1,233, all ranks. Only one of its regiments was intact, the other two were at half-strength. The Force promptly took over one-quarter of Anzio's thirty-mile-long front, and in a week forced the Germans to withdraw more than a mile from the Mussolini Canal, which was situated at the right flank of the bridgehead."

ORIGINAL: GoodGuy

Update:

It seems like the site was maintained by David A. Ryan himself, he also provided Niehorster with some OOBs (Allies).

Niehorster mentioned him on his news page for providing infos about British armed forces in India, in an entry from 2006.

This leads to me thinking that Niehorster incorporated some of "dryan"'s work on his site. Niehorster doesn't provide Mediterranean OOBs for Italy 1944/45, though.

http://niehorster.orbat.com/000_admin/000oob.htm

So I'm not sure whether Ryan had full 1943/1944 Med OOBs or not.

( http://stonebooks.com/archives/010318.shtml )

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EDIT:

RYAN : FOUND IT : http://web.me.com/dryan671/ordersofbattle/Welcome.html

Dang, sometimes I really think that I'm a research-meister. On the other hand, it doesn't take a Meister to operate google, eh? lol
Oh well, it still matters what you enter in google at times, though. [:D]

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The Rothwell domain may be a better source for Anzio.

This looks interesting too:
http://wwii.ca/maps/italian_front_11may44.jpg

http://www.wwii.ca/page30.html

Anzio May 1944:

http://www.rothwell.force9.co.uk/liri.htm

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You might also want to include the only existing American-Canadian unit, the First Special Service Force:

http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cf ... rs/special

"By the time the First Special Service Force was pulled out of the line in the middle of January, it had an impressive record. After securing Majo, it drove the enemy from Hills 1109 and 1270, and other Fifth Army formations cleared the Germans from east of Cassino. Due in large part to this elite Canadian-American unit, the Fifth Army was finally ready to launch its long-awaited offensive on Rome. The Force was now sent to Anzio.

The First Special Service Force arrived at the beachhead on February 1. A few reinforcements left it with a combat strength of 1,233, all ranks. Only one of its regiments was intact, the other two were at half-strength. The Force promptly took over one-quarter of Anzio's thirty-mile-long front, and in a week forced the Germans to withdraw more than a mile from the Mussolini Canal, which was situated at the right flank of the bridgehead."

ORIGINAL: Arjuna

PoE, very nice indeed. [&o]