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Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 5:21 pm
by Petisch
I just had another "oh..." moment
and I'll start with this:
Researching “port expansion” alone is not enough;
the desired port must also be expanded
(similar to upgrading with anti-aircraft)
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:20 pm
by Platoonist
When making an amphibious move try to make that move out of port or coast clear of any nearby enemy ports or land masses that they can spot from. Since you don't control the first sea hex the unit deploys to you sometimes end up being inadverently spotted and then bombed on the enemy turn.
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:11 pm
by Tendraline
How paratroopers work, namely by going to "Set mode" and then Prepare. No cost (except for landing casualties maybe) and you can absolutely wreak havoc on rear areas, especially in sparser theaters like India
Also how to enable tooltips like the "having bombers in Midway destroys supply in Wake and Hawaii" one. I still had to crudely use battleships to destroy Honolulu to capture it, but the bombers made it easier
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:26 am
by Jazon
Hi,
one thing, that I encountered... "Bombers in Midway/Guadalcanal/Saint Cristobal etc. disript supply" actually means MARTIME BOMBER, medium bomber in the location does not provide this effect.
Also Manchuria thing...you can replace Japanese Armies with garrison units. I thoght the idea is that Japanese need to maintain Armies in crucial positions, but it is not working this way.
What else... there is a way to speed up Japanese invasion in Burma. When you captured Rangoon, and Burma surrenders, all its territory goes into Axis control. If Allied player didn't put any unit in Mandaly, the next turn you can operationaly transport units from around Rangoon(usually its HQ, tank and Thai corps to Mandalay. I found it speed up bussiness a lot!
Cheers all
Jazon
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 6:51 pm
by Tendraline
Jazon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:26 am
Hi,
one thing, that I encountered... "Bombers in Midway/Guadalcanal/Saint Cristobal etc. disript supply" actually means MARTIME BOMBER, medium bomber in the location does not provide this effect.
Also Manchuria thing...you can replace Japanese Armies with garrison units. I thoght the idea is that Japanese need to maintain Armies in crucial positions, but it is not working this way.
What else... there is a way to speed up Japanese invasion in Burma. When you captured Rangoon, and Burma surrenders, all its territory goes into Axis control. If Allied player didn't put any unit in Mandaly, the next turn you can operationaly transport units from around Rangoon(usually its HQ, tank and Thai corps to Mandalay. I found it speed up bussiness a lot!
Cheers all
Jazon
If that is the case, that sounds like a bug. Because the game guide explicitly states that both medium and maritime bombers provide this effect.
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And as for me, I'm not even sure it is true; I've gotten both the San Cristobal and Hebrides messages in the same turn, but only with one maritime bomber (the other was the medium bomber from Truk)
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:21 am
by Jazon
I see. I am playing multiplayer, and I am pretty sure, I put Medium Bomber in Midway and the "disrupt supply" event didn't flare up. Of course, human's memory can be mistaken, but other players, please check maybe in single player. Mybe it's just in one location.
Cheers
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:14 am
by BillRunacre
Jazon wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:21 am
I see. I am playing multiplayer, and I am pretty sure, I put Medium Bomber in Midway and the "disrupt supply" event didn't flare up. Of course, human's memory can be mistaken, but other players, please check maybe in single player. Mybe it's just in one location.
Cheers
It is set for Medium Bombers too, though the key word to note in the Strategy Guide is that they "
may impede the flow of shipping" as there is a 25% chance per turn of them doing so - hence it will probably just happen every now and again, sometimes more, sometimes less.
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:00 am
by Jazon
HI,
"MAY" i must have overlooked it! Thanks for clarification!
Jazon
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:27 pm
by TangSooDo
Exactly what are the benefits of Port Expansion?
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:17 pm
by BillRunacre
8.8.15. Naval Construction
This increases the supply distribution value of ports not connected to Major’s Capitals, Industrial Centers or Primary Supply Centers.
Upgrading with this increases the supply value of ports on islands that have a maximum strength of 5, so that naval units refueling there can maximize their potential for combat operations. Otherwise they may well be at a disadvantage when clashing with enemy units, so this will be an important technology for winning naval battles, enabling your vessels to refuel to full capacity without returning home.
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 7:13 pm
by TangSooDo
Thanks, Bill, for the always great support.
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:07 pm
by mdsmall
Jazon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:26 am
Also Manchuria thing...you can replace Japanese Armies with garrison units. I thought the idea is that Japanese need to maintain Armies in crucial positions, but it is not working this way.
Jazon
For Bill: is this what the developers intended? It makes very big difference to the campaign in China if the Japanese can transfer all their armies from Manchuria, at the minor cost of replacing them with garrisons.
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:11 pm
by mdsmall
I would add: it's important to know that naval zones of control cost + 7 AP to enter, not just +1 AP (as in other SC games). This means that ships that choose to engage in surface combat can not run as far away from their target after an attack as in the other titles - thus exposing them to greater risk of a enemy counter-attack, especially if there are carriers or bombers nearby.
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:21 pm
by Platoonist
mdsmall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:11 pm
I would add: it's important to know that naval zones of control cost + 7 AP to enter, not just +1 AP (as in other SC games).
As of a recent patch that seems to be the standard naval ZOC cost in SC War in Europe as well.
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Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:23 am
by BillRunacre
mdsmall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 7:07 pm
Jazon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:26 am
Also Manchuria thing...you can replace Japanese Armies with garrison units. I thought the idea is that Japanese need to maintain Armies in crucial positions, but it is not working this way.
Jazon
For Bill: is this what the developers intended? It makes very big difference to the campaign in China if the Japanese can transfer all their armies from Manchuria, at the minor cost of replacing them with garrisons.
Yes, as the in-game messages say, the only requirement is that the units have to be Japanese.
The USSR was so busy fighting the Axis that it was not really that keen on war with Japan at the time.
Re: Things you wish you knew before your first duels in SCWW2 Pacific
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 1:15 pm
by Torplexed
BillRunacre wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:23 am
Yes, as the in-game messages say, the only requirement is that the units have to be Japanese.
The USSR was so busy fighting the Axis that it was not really that keen on war with Japan at the time.
If I remember correctly that's basically how it worked in World at War as well. You just had to keep a "unit" at the six listed town or city locations in Manchuria to keep the USSR neutral. Garrisons or anything else.