Milk Runs in the MED

[Hard Sarge]

everyone thinks the MED is a Milk Run, a push over, easy meat on the table

everyone may be wrong

[Hard Sarge]

A place to enjoy the sun and water, fine food and wine

[Hard Sarge]

The old saying still holds true, see Roma and Die

[Hard Sarge]

Or just drop in and say hello to some old friends, everyone is friendly in the MED

just take my word for it

[Hard Sarge]

Ahh the joys to be had, when you travel

[jcjordan]

The screen shots remind me of what is actually happening in my games even when I assign massive close & high escort!! [:@] The game looks familiar, what's it from? Been awhile since I did any flight sims - I got B17 1&2 along with IL2.

[Hard Sarge]

those are from IL-2 FB/PF/AEP/BOE/TLDs
with the new 4.03 M patch installed

okay bonus point time, what am I flying and what am I attacking

[watchtower]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

those are from IL-2 FB/PF/AEP/BOE/TLDs
with the new 4.03 M patch installed

And I thought they were 'secret' screenshots of the revamped BTR[:D][:D][8D]

[Hard Sarge]

Well they could of been, but we can't used copyrighted stuff

we had to cut out the FPS part of the game, as it was too much of a resourse hog

[HMSWarspite]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

those are from IL-2 FB/PF/AEP/BOE/TLDs
with the new 4.03 M patch installed

okay bonus point time, what am I flying and what am I attacking

Easy easy[>:]

Macchi C205 Veltro, and a mobile space heater. (although haven't you heard of global warming? Having 2 rings lit is just wasteful, one will have the desired effect just as well, just slower[:-])

Or more formally, Consolidated B24J

Or did you mean the B17?[:D]

[Hard Sarge]

hmmm any reason you say it is a 205, besides the late war colors ?


how about these (Mc 205 is not enough info, need more details)

[Hard Sarge]

or this one

[Hard Sarge]

oops, guess not that one, that one was just showing how close I was, I look down at my wing, I can see his wing, we about 2 ft apart (before I was able to pause to take the snap)

okay, this one

[Hard Sarge]

and the last one

[Hard Sarge]

Man don't believe how close I was in most of those shots

if my battieys for my stick are ready, I got a challenge to take, someone wants to see how many 24's you can down with a Do-335, since the 24's are at 10,000 ft, that give the 335 all the up and down it needs

[Hard Sarge]

in case anybody is wondering

I knocked down 6 B-24's, damaged 2 others (one of them landing on 3 engines)

I lost my front engine, tried to make my landing, but came in a little too hot and bounced, then lost a gear and came to rest on my nose, any landing you can walk away from, is a good landing

(I not sure how to open the cockpit, with out fireing off the ejection seat though, so I am still sitting there)

[HMSWarspite]

ORIGINAL: Hard Sarge

hmmm any reason you say it is a 205, besides the late war colors ?


how about these (Mc 205 is not enough info, need more details)

Oops - didn't notice the differences. In full:
2-4 and 2-2 have what look like wing mounted 20mm, which makes them C205 after the first 100 production a/c. (The first 100 had 7.7mm mg in the wings, and the 202 had usually nothing, although a/c 500 on had nominally got the 7.7mm mg but usually not fitted according to my source)

96-1, and - 1 are trickier. I am guessing: they could be early model 205. The other possibilty is 202, but I think the chin radiator and nose profile looks more like a 205.

The last picture is a 202 I think (the one where you appear to be flying close formation rather than shooting them down!)
Any good?

[Hard Sarge]

Well
one reason I asked, is one of my books states that in the end, even a expert can not tell the difference between a 202 and a 205 with out being able to see the plane numbers

(but guessing here, what he means is a number of 202's ended up getting the 205 engine, so you can see what looks like the front end of a 205, with a locked tail wheel which is one of the give aways on the 202 (202 had a locked tail wheel, the 205 had a retracting)

getting into the tricks again, there is a 202 series I, VII and XII, and a 205 series I and III

but over all, sharp nose cone, good bet to be a 202, blunt nose cone, no chin rad, a 205


(Unless it happend to be a modified model)

[HMSWarspite]

You are right about the spinner (I assume that's what you mean). The only pictures I have show a pointed spinner on a 202,and rounded on a 205 series III. I hadn't picked up on that.

I have a chin rad on a 205 (unspecified series), but it is less rectangular, more rounded, and more obvious from the side than the 202 rad. A little like the air filter, but underneath the exhaust.

I suspect you are right about them being shuffled often! I have a picture taken in 1983 of a restored 205, "earlier modified from a C202 for Egypt"!

I had spotted the tail wheel differences from my sources, but couldn't make out enough tail wheels on your pictures to use them.

Was I correct in my ID? Have I still got it? Or will I shoot down more of my friends by mistake?

[Hard Sarge]

are you sure it is a chin rad ? and not them wierd oil coolers ? depend on the angle, those coolers can look like a chin rad

I have only come across one 205 with a Chin Rad, and it was a rebuilt 202 (which they say the engine was changed, but it still have the pointed spinner,so am not sure, it does have the unlocking tail wheel, which makes it a even stranger pic, as the back half of the plane should of been pure 202)

(well, in one of our debates, we got pics of 109 E1's with 20 mm wingcannons, but stats say they didn't have them)

so yea, over all you were right on, but you were looking at Pic's, not the same as telling the difference in a fight

wait till you get into a fight with some Yaks and Laggs and 109's pull up and climb into the sun, and see at close range to each other a Yak 1, a Lagg 3 and a 109 F and you got time to pick your shot and tap the trigger

nose and tail will normally help you guess

LOL in Fighter Ace, I hated to bounce some SU planes, for what ever reason, I can not tell until very close what is a La-7 vs a IL-2 (very odd, as they are not even close in shape or size, wing layout even) but I swear I have been diving on a 7, calling to my mate, that I am about to bounce a 7 and start taking fire from the rear gunner (I normally knock him down, but it is still a shock, not to mention the fact when my mate calls back, that didn't look like no 7 I ever saw)

okay, what is this one, my plane should be easy after all the talk on chins, but what is my Polish buddy flying ?

if it don't jump out at you at first, look at the radio mast, if that don't help then the exsust (?) stacks should help