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Those Sovs are probably forted up pretty good. Have they been in that hex awhile?
I've seen LCU's in non base hexes build as high as 6 fort levels. Bad news for you if thats the case.
Do you have engineers?
The next reasonable question is this.
How do your supplies look for the units you have attacking?
Didn't notice that before.
ORIGINAL: hawker
His unist also has disruption.
His units are GREEN with little experience.
I have whole SAA units here and Imerial guards has 98 exp.,others are also above 90.
n my opinion, you ordered a shock attack right into the teeth of a well fortified and well defended position. History shows several massive slaughters that have occured by armies trying to do just such a thing. Did you bomb his fortifications before attacking? Did you bring combat engineers to knock down his forts?
I have noticed in WitP, and this may be my imagination, but you can't overwhelm such massive armies as 150,000 men in one turn, I don't care how big an army you bring. The number of troops involved makes this a major battle that, in RL, would go on for days. Regroup and try again, I bet you get better results the next time around. You still have 580,000 troops.
Hi, If in range of HQ (SAA for SAA units Kwanturng for Kwantung units) If prepped to 100 percent for hex combat is occuring in. If supply equal to or greater then required. Then units would fight at 200 percent. If out of HQ range minus 50 percent. If below required supply minus percent low, if not prepped minus amount not ready. Your units are at half strength if out of HQ range and not prepped.
I think part of the problem is one of scale. I don't know if much thought was given to how the land combat model would work when people start putting 600,000 troops in a single hex.
In WW1 such numbers were massed in small areas to launch attacks, but only after months of preparation and logistical build up, using railway networks immediately behind the front lines to bring up the massive amounts of supplies and ammunition required.
The rules imply that a fort level of 3 doubles the strength of the defenders. Therefore, the 150000 defending troops are doubled to a strength of 300000 due to the forest, and doubled again to 600000 due to the forts. Prep levels don't matter in non-base hexes.
If you want to know exactly how closely you missed getting a 1-1, you should watch the combat replay where the adjusted assault values for both sides are displayed.
Sounds like an unlucky die roll. Like I said, regroup and get ready to go again. YOu will overwhelm his forces if you keep going with attacks like you just described. It's just going to take some time. After all, you may have lost 20,000, but that's still only 3% losses, not to bad for a major attack.
ORIGINAL: hawker
I think part of the problem is one of scale. I don't know if much thought was given to how the land combat model would work when people start putting 600,000 troops in a single hex.
In WW1 such numbers were massed in small areas to launch attacks, but only after months of preparation and logistical build up, using railway networks immediately behind the front lines to bring up the massive amounts of supplies and ammunition required.
I think that you have the point Andrew.
Combined,we have 750000 troops in one hex,in 60 miles. Maybe that is problem, i think that game engine just cant support huge armies.
Example,you can put all units from map in one hex,in RL that is impossible.You cant put 5 milion men in 60 miles.
Yes you can. I live in the L.A. area...one hex on the map. In real life we have over 15 million people in this hex. One hex is approx. 360 square miles in this game...maybe more. I can't see where overstacking could become a problem...unless it's as you stated, the game engine has problems with large numbers.
I don't think it has anything to do with over crowding. I think it has to do with how many guns the allies have and their defensive positions. In RL this is a battle that would probably take days or weeks to decide.
