Possible bugs with 1.08.04

[RUPD3658]

The following stragne things happened last turn in my PBEM with KDonovan:

1. B-24s, LB-30s, and PB4Ys flew strike missions from Tarawa to Kwaj (12 hexes). This would not be a problem except that Tarawa is only a 4 AF and the planes should only be flying to their normal range (10-11 hexes). He had an F-5A fly right before so maybe this messed up the range calculations for the other AC at the base.

2. About 4 months ago my best Zero pilot, WO Handa with 17 kills, was wounded. Since his squadron was mauled it was withdrawn a few days later. He returned before his sqaudron and went to another Zero squadron. This was under 1.08.02. I looked for him today and found that he and a 12 kill and 2 5 kill Zero pilots are now flying Bettys in a sqaudron that just arrvied today.

Kenny has lost 2 Maraine para units to the air transport bug recently so neither of these are game killers.

I still love this game so I hope that the causes of these oddities can be located and corrected in the next patch. In the mean time I will treat these as FOW.

[tocaff]

Nothing like a fix for one thing that flubs another........................

[Halsey]

1. 4e bombers flying from smaller than normal airfields "do not have their range decreased". Only the bombload is considered. This has been like this from the start.

2. So the pilot became a replacement.
I don't see this as a bug, or gamebreaker.
He's still alive isn't he?

3. The airtransport LCU loss has been around for awhile.
If you stop transporting them after 50+% have been moved the fragment will become the parent unit.
You can then restart the transfer.
Again, another easy fix that's been doable from the begining.

[niceguy2005]

I thought that the air transport bug had been fixed! [&:]

I have had no recent transport bug problems from either fast transport or air transport. Are others still having problems?

[Halsey]

Actually, I haven't seen it in awhile myself.[;)]

Though I still use the above formula anyway.
Just in case.[:D]

[Honda]

Eye for an eye, bug for a bug[:D]

[KDonovan]

4e bombers flying from smaller than normal airfields "do not have their range decreased". Only the bombload is considered. This has been like this from the start.

i was under the impression that 4E bombers can't fly extended range missions from level 4 airfields. And if they do fly normal range missions, then their bomb loads are decreased. Am i wrong in this assumption?

[Sonny]

ORIGINAL: KDonovan

4e bombers flying from smaller than normal airfields "do not have their range decreased". Only the bombload is considered. This has been like this from the start.

i was under the impression that 4E bombers can't fly extended range missions from level 4 airfields. And if they do fly normal range missions, then their bomb loads are decreased. Am i wrong in this assumption?

That is what I thought too.[&:]

[KDonovan]

according to the manual, my B24's with extended range of 14 and normal range of 10, shouldn't have been able to attack Kwalajien (12 hexes away) from Tarawa (level 4 AF)

[ckk]

You are stating what the Manual says in 7.2.2.8 and 4E bombers require level 5 fields to fly extended range missions.

[Grotius]

I also thought the air transport bug had been fixed. The 1.802 patch notes mention something about it:

Item 45 - Disappearing unit during air pick up.

Pick up of unit by air transport incorrectly transposing parameters and possibly causing disappearance of unit being picked up. Corrected parameters and added more bulletproofing

Although whenever a dev talks about "bulletproofing," I get nervous.

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: Halsey

1. 4e bombers flying from smaller than normal airfields "do not have their range decreased". Only the bombload is considered. This has been like this from the start.

7.2.2.8 page 128 in the stock manual:

Level bombers flying out of a small airfield cannot fly at extended range, and will be treated as if they are flying at extended range when bmbing targets at normal range

We are playing stock scn 15 ver 1.08.04

[Halsey]

Another inaccuracy in the manual.[:(]

There are a lot of them.[;)]

[rtrapasso]

There was a lot about this particular business a while back... something about whether a certain island base could be bombed by the Allies (before B-29s). While the rulebook stated that it couldn't be bombed (because the only way to reach it was flying 4E bombers from a size 4 airfield at extended range) - someone finally tried it and did it, proving the rulebook incorrect.

So - Halsey is right (once again)... [&o] [&o]


EDIT: This was WAY before 1.80.04 - maybe version 1.21 or so...

[tabpub]

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

There was a lot about this particular business a while back... something about whether a certain island base could be bombed by the Allies (before B-29s). While the rulebook stated that it couldn't be bombed (because the only way to reach it was flying 4E bombers from a size 4 airfield at extended range) - someone finally tried it and did it, proving the rulebook incorrect.

So - Halsey is right (once again)... [&o] [&o]


EDIT: This was WAY before 1.80.04 - maybe version 1.21 or so...

I recollect it as the game with 2 Italians playing it. One, not knowing that he "couldn't" do it, built up Thursday Island to 4, filled it with B17's and caught the Rabaul air groups of the other sitting on their keesters. I think the IJ player was Hoeppner, as I recall; and he was frothing for a bit afterward.[:@]

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: tabpub

ORIGINAL: rtrapasso

There was a lot about this particular business a while back... something about whether a certain island base could be bombed by the Allies (before B-29s). While the rulebook stated that it couldn't be bombed (because the only way to reach it was flying 4E bombers from a size 4 airfield at extended range) - someone finally tried it and did it, proving the rulebook incorrect.

So - Halsey is right (once again)... [&o] [&o]


EDIT: This was WAY before 1.80.04 - maybe version 1.21 or so...

I recollect it as the game with 2 Italians playing it. One, not knowing that he "couldn't" do it, built up Thursday Island to 4, filled it with B17's and caught the Rabaul air groups of the other sitting on their keesters. I think the IJ player was Hoeppner, as I recall; and he was frothing for a bit afterward.[:@]

Possibly, although i recall it was folks asking questions about the possibility in the main forum or War Room... although the question could have been resolved in this incident... [:D]