Artillery question

Norm Koger's The Operational Art of War III is the next game in the award-winning Operational Art of War game series. TOAW3 is updated and enhanced version of the TOAW: Century of Warfare game series. TOAW3 is a turn based game covering operational warfare from 1850-2015. Game scale is from 2.5km to 50km and half day to full week turns. TOAW3 scenarios have been designed by over 70 designers and included over 130 scenarios. TOAW3 comes complete with a full game editor.

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Will a artillery unit behind my line NOT support the defence if the arty guys are from another formation as the defender in the attacked hex?

For example in "Operation Blue" as germans I moved those plenty arty units from 11.army somewhere else after sewastopol was taken but it seems they dont support the defenders.

btw: There is really a option aka gamefeature needed to assign units to other formations.
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I remember they need to pass somekind of communication check, and this feature will be included in the next patch? not sure though.
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I remember they need to pass somekind of communication check, and this feature will be included in the next patch? not sure though.
If you're referring to "this feature" as being able to swap units from formation to formation, then that is most assuredly incorrect. This ability will most certainly have to wait until a TOAW IV.
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I remember they need to pass somekind of communication check, and this feature will be included in the next patch? not sure though.
If you're referring to "this feature" as being able to swap units from formation to formation, then that is most assuredly incorrect. This ability will most certainly have to wait until a TOAW IV.
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Oooeer....hints about TOAW IV....[:D][:D]........including the ability to shift units between formations??!! [&o][&o]
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Oh, at least we have hope [:D]
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..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?
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..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?
Depends on the cooperation level and communications checks.
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..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?

..check the formation co-operation setting, and check the unit icon colours before you move the artillery..

..in actual combat go plan attack, if all the flags are gold then it's cool, if not, not...
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Also, be sure your artillery orders are not set to "Mobile".
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Also, be sure your artillery orders are not set to "Mobile".

It's my understanding that artillery that is in "mobile" status doesn't fire but that artillery that is intended to fire must be in 'T,D,E, or F' mode. Oh....you don't want it to fire, okay nevermind.
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Also, be sure your artillery orders are not set to "Mobile".

It's my understanding that artillery that is in "mobile" status doesn't fire but that artillery that is intended to fire must be in 'T,D,E, or F' mode. Oh....you don't want it to fire, okay nevermind.

..i only use tactical settings, then i'm sure it supports..
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..and? Whats the thingy with my arty now?

..check the formation co-operation setting, and check the unit icon colours before you move the artillery..

co-op level (the flag colour on the attack planning screen I assume) is grey.

the icon colour from the arty units in question is another one than the units which are suposed to be supported (in the operation blue campaign each german army has another color). The arty units are dug in.

Is there any chance that they will support the defence anyway (if so I will let them stay here, maybe just bad luck that they dont gave any support yet).
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..aaargghh..

..gold is good, grey is errr dodgy, black is crap...

..take a look at "formation" on one of the pull-downs, internal support is really baaad, they only like units from the same formation and of the same colour..

..it gets better from there..
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or try this alternative one

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or try this alternative one

rename to combatviewstuff.bmp after downloading it

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Very cool.

EDIT: God, that's an ugly green, though! [:D]
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..take a look at "formation" on one of the pull-downs, internal support is really baaad, they only like units from the same formation and of the same colour..

it is "Streitmacht-Unterstützung" (german version). I think it means Force support.
The support is limited then (but possible) , right?
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..take a look at "formation" on one of the pull-downs, internal support is really baaad, they only like units from the same formation and of the same colour..

it is "Streitmacht-Unterstützung" (german version). I think it means Force support.
They should support then, right?

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hehe. Matrix´s translation are vague at times ;)
Lets say they mean force support, am I correct then? (edited my post above)
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