Scenarios for a new patch

[Legun]

I've upgraded my old "White Eagle - Red Star" set of scenarios to TOAW3 standard. Where I should send them to attach to a next patch?

[JAMiAM]

You can send them to me, Jarek.

Make sure you include "TOAW III Scenario Submission" in the subject line.

iamjamiam (at) yahoo (dot) com

We have a small patch that is almost ready to wrap up, so they may miss this one. If so, then we'll put them in the next one. Thanks.

[Levelworm]

I guess it's the "Russian Civil War" scenario? Excellent! Could you please include the refrence into readme document?

[Legun]

ORIGINAL: Levelworm

I guess it's the "Russian Civil War" scenario? Excellent!

Thanks

Could you please include the refrence into readme document?

Sorry, I couldn't. I've met about 40 books about the war - it's based on Polish and Russian sources. Many of them are publications from '20 and '30. The only English book I could recommend is Norman Davies' "White Eagle : Red Star". If you really need detailed information about Polish and Russian publications about the war, I could make you photos of reference lists of the newest publication. There are 24 pages .

[ColinWright]

ORIGINAL: Legun

ORIGINAL: Levelworm

I guess it's the "Russian Civil War" scenario? Excellent!

Thanks

Could you please include the refrence into readme document?

Sorry, I couldn't. I've met about 40 books about the war - it's based on Polish and Russian sources. Many of them are publications from '20 and '30. The only English book I could recommend is Norman Davies' "White Eagle : Red Star". If you really need detailed information about Polish and Russian publications about the war, I could make you photos of reference lists of the newest publication. There are 24 pages .

Could be worse. If anyone ever finds a worthwhile source on the Greco-Turkish War of 1921-22, let me know. Inasmuch as it determined the destiny of a fairly substantial state, it's annoying that there's virtually nothing in English. To my knowledge, the following:

Various stray internet summaries.

Kinross's biography of Ataturk. A fine book -- but obviously not primarily concerned with the one particular war.

Hellenic Vision (or something.) Also a perfectly good book -- but again, not really about the war per se. More the dynamics of the internal Greek political struggle.

An impossibly illiterate, biased, and generally inane book written by some Pakistani officer.

The worst of it is that given Turkey's fairly long-standing military establishment, there's probably a considerable volume of work on the war -- if not necessarily balanced work. Of course, it'd all be in Turkish...

[nemo69]

ORIGINAL: ColinWright

Could be worse. If anyone ever finds a worthwhile source on the Greco-Turkish War of 1921-22, let me know. Inasmuch as it determined the destiny of a fairly substantial state, it's annoying that there's virtually nothing in English. To my knowledge, the following:

Various stray internet summaries.

Kinross's biography of Ataturk. A fine book -- but obviously not primarily concerned with the one particular war.

Hellenic Vision (or something.) Also a perfectly good book -- but again, not really about the war per se. More the dynamics of the internal Greek political struggle.

An impossibly illiterate, biased, and generally inane book written by some Pakistani officer.

The worst of it is that given Turkey's fairly long-standing military establishment, there's probably a considerable volume of work on the war -- if not necessarily balanced work. Of course, it'd all be in Turkish...

Stanford Jay Shaw's From Empire to Republic: The Turkish War of National Liberation, 1918-1923 : a documentary study. vol. 3, part 1, From Turkish resistance to the Turkish war of national liberation, 1920-1922 could be worth a look. In the same series, volume 5 is dedicated to the author's bibliography.

You also have David Fromkin's A peace to end all peace : the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of the modern Middle East.

Finally, Edward J. Erickson and Mesut Uyar are set to publish this september a Military History of the Ottoman Empire: Mehemet to Ataturk , which later chapters could provide some piece of information too.

[ColinWright]

ORIGINAL: Nemo69

ORIGINAL: ColinWright

Could be worse. If anyone ever finds a worthwhile source on the Greco-Turkish War of 1921-22, let me know. Inasmuch as it determined the destiny of a fairly substantial state, it's annoying that there's virtually nothing in English. To my knowledge, the following:

Various stray internet summaries.

Kinross's biography of Ataturk. A fine book -- but obviously not primarily concerned with the one particular war.

Hellenic Vision (or something.) Also a perfectly good book -- but again, not really about the war per se. More the dynamics of the internal Greek political struggle.

An impossibly illiterate, biased, and generally inane book written by some Pakistani officer.

The worst of it is that given Turkey's fairly long-standing military establishment, there's probably a considerable volume of work on the war -- if not necessarily balanced work. Of course, it'd all be in Turkish...

Stanford Jay Shaw's From Empire to Republic: The Turkish War of National Liberation, 1918-1923 : a documentary study. vol. 3, part 1, From Turkish resistance to the Turkish war of national liberation, 1920-1922 could be worth a look. In the same series, volume 5 is dedicated to the author's bibliography.

You also have David Fromkin's A peace to end all peace : the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of the modern Middle East.

Finally, Edward J. Erickson and Mesut Uyar are set to publish this september a Military History of the Ottoman Empire: Mehemet to Ataturk , which later chapters could provide some piece of information too.

Thanks. More than I was hoping for.

[nemo69]

ORIGINAL: ColinWright

ORIGINAL: Nemo69

ORIGINAL: ColinWright

Could be worse. If anyone ever finds a worthwhile source on the Greco-Turkish War of 1921-22, let me know. Inasmuch as it determined the destiny of a fairly substantial state, it's annoying that there's virtually nothing in English. To my knowledge, the following:

Various stray internet summaries.

Kinross's biography of Ataturk. A fine book -- but obviously not primarily concerned with the one particular war.

Hellenic Vision (or something.) Also a perfectly good book -- but again, not really about the war per se. More the dynamics of the internal Greek political struggle.

An impossibly illiterate, biased, and generally inane book written by some Pakistani officer.

The worst of it is that given Turkey's fairly long-standing military establishment, there's probably a considerable volume of work on the war -- if not necessarily balanced work. Of course, it'd all be in Turkish...

Stanford Jay Shaw's From Empire to Republic: The Turkish War of National Liberation, 1918-1923 : a documentary study. vol. 3, part 1, From Turkish resistance to the Turkish war of national liberation, 1920-1922 could be worth a look. In the same series, volume 5 is dedicated to the author's bibliography.

You also have David Fromkin's A peace to end all peace : the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the creation of the modern Middle East.

Finally, Edward J. Erickson and Mesut Uyar are set to publish this september a Military History of the Ottoman Empire: Mehemet to Ataturk , which later chapters could provide some piece of information too.

Thanks. More than I was hoping for.

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