Zhukov's war

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26.7.42
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1 attack directly East of Tarnopol that resulted in a retreat.
Reforming and refitting of the Pz divisions and Luftwaffle for future operations.
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We are happy each week the panzers are leaving us alone. We dig our trenches (graves?) deeper.
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The Luftwaffle has been ordered to attack the Soviet Industry
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The Luftwaffle has been ordered to attack the Soviet Industry

Good luck, if you manage to hit their oil and industry sites that'll be a real setback.
I'm sure you got plenty of He-111's on hand to do the job
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1942. 08. 09.
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The red army has bombarded all enemy units in range with artillery to get recon on the enemy strength. From this information we begin concentrate our forces for the counteroffense.

Stavka debated long over the enemy startagic bombing. They caused some damage, but they dont have the range to hurt us at too many places. Our flak would cause them great damage if they attack Lenningrad or Moscow. But we care about our civilians, so at the end we deceided to massacre those bombers in the air should they try again.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

758/511
0/31
259/623
0/4

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Good luck, if you manage to hit their oil and industry sites that'll be a real setback.
I'm sure you got plenty of He-111's on hand to do the job



Had to end my last post in a hurry.

I dont think there is much chance of me doing the required damage to his oil in 1 turn. If i recall correctly, a HQ is defending southern Russia so I didnt bother attacking there.





The Luftwaffle targeted Voronezh and Kharkov while there is little action going on in the east.

This should force the VVS to rethink there tactics as they have been able commit large air formations and withdraw them for rebuilding with little concequences to the VVS

I have to keep the Soviets on there toes so they try to counter my moves and not vice versa. Soon it will be time for me to guess the Soviet intentions. I have planned someting for the Soviet winter offense but if I can pull it off is another matter.
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Odessa has fallen to the mighty German army. This will free up a number of divisions.

A reserve has been created to counter any Soviet surprises. Our best Pz Divisions will show them the welcome they deserve.
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1942. 08. 16.
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"the welcome they deserve." ? Is that white flag and some food and wine? :) Rome got bombed by he allies as no axis fighters showed for the fight. Just some minor bombardment this week.

Losses tis week:

Axis/Soviet

103/0
0/0
48/208
2/34

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23.8.42
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We always give Soviet troops food and wine when they show us the white flag. More wine and food is offered depending on how msany Kv's they bring with them.

Kiev has been the Luftwaffle's target this week. The city has suffered great damage to its industry. The VVS is defending with greater force so we have tempted them out to play.
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No action, we sent in a few fighter wings for air defence. Just enough to tax the Luftwaffe, but not enough to provoke airfield attacks.
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1942. 09. 13.
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This week 2000 fighter bombers attacked in the south. We found only on fw unit which got destroyed. After that Ploesti got bombed.

We cut the railway by Minsk again. 2 tank armies went after a small german infantry unit, We feal a bit ashamed by hunting a few german soldaten by 2000 kv's, but we did not have air recon of the area, and we wanted to be sure.

Losses this week:

363/257
31/5
167/39
312/479

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1942. 09. 27.
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On this last badly warm week of the year the soviet armies designated for the first main winter offense has been deployed in the face of the german invaders. 4000 old but experienced fighters defend them (after their heroic destruction the elite la5 units will come in to fight the hopefully worn out Luftwaffe). We prepared the best we could but we are afraid of the "welcome we deserve". North of Kiev our infantry begun to clear out the Pripraty swamps of the german infantry. Nice cold weather and snow came at the end of the week.

Losses this week:

592/573
1/32
202/81
0/48

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4.10.42
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With such a large fighter escort on the front, the Luftwaffle once again targeted Soviet industy. Rostov, Kharkov, and Kursk were our targets this week with no other air battles. We try again to force the VVS to split there forces out. Such a large Soviet airforce close to the front makes the High command very uneasy.

3 attacks were launched in the Pript swamps but we only managed to retreat the enemy in 1 sector.

Massed tank armies have been spotted to our very north and our to very south. We will not have to wait long for the Soviet attacks to begin and with such a large airforce close to the front, it will be intresting.
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1942. 10. 04.
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Our tankers were happy the germans not pulled back as they used to. 8 tank armies with over 8000 kv's went in expecting easy kill of the german infantry and light armor. The northern tank armies got what they expected: easy victory. In the south our tankers felt something never before. They felt abused.Now they know what it was to be a german light tank. They run into massed tigers. Not a few, but hundreds. They got absolutely murdered. Raped. Annihilated...Rain came at the end of the week to stop the kv's burning in the south. All scientist are now ordered to work on the kv-85 project 20 hours every day. Those monsters were completely immune to our kv's guns, and knocked out our kv's from miles.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

777/1182
60/198
292/166
107/34

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From Tom

Yes, I expected you to move back your troops. I
attacked at many places, but only one suceeded in the
north. High resolution showed why you stayed. You have
researched tigers it seems. I did not expect so many
of them this early. They absolutely murdered my kv's.
They had no chance.


From Kingtiger

Tigers are being mass produced to counter the armor inbalance we are currently facing in the east. We have researched tigers and got them about a month early. That was a big mistake as we had to call off our summer offensive in the south at the worst possible time. A better choice would of been to produce stugs in great numbers to keep the Pz divisions moving. This would of given Germany a better chance of a victory in the south last summer.

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I think in this game you must produce the best armored tanks for experience reasons. Stug's are great and cheap, and the stug units only use stugs. And thy can be used as jagdpanzers as well. So they should be produced besides tigers. But on attack only half of them showes up, so they are not an answer to lacking tank quality problem. I think research is not worth it, you just gave up too many production for a small time margin. I never resarch as germans I produce the best pzIII until PzIVg, then when tiger comes all tiger and stugIIIg. Of I'm i trouble I dont produce any jpz's just stug's massed. If I'm doing well, I will produce jagdpanthers.

The fighter question is easy with the germans, fw all the way. I dont think me262a is worth its high cost. If you have enough fw's you dominate anyway, if you dont you need the numbers. Me262A is excellent in big numbers though (but then you are overkill anyway). In normal wir I wanted to try me410's after 43 november in my last game against tdv as my bomber force was very low. It is just one dogfght less then fw, with 44 load as fighter bomber. It did not go that far, but that would have been fun.

With the sooviets yak's are better early, but fighter bomber is needed so I go with la's in possum.

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If I remember right only half of the jagdpanzers and stugs are showing up for offense. So they are not good for panzer replacement.
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18.10.42
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We attacked the Soviet airfields this week.
Very small numbers of bombers arriving in the initial AF attacks caused the VVS little damage. The prolonged air to air battles resulted in the Fw's to suffer much heavier losses.

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

2000/5000 Aircraft
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1942. 10. 18.
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All attacks failed this week. What will happen to us in the summer of 43? Tigers supported with fw's? Sounds like fun...

Losses this week:

Axis/Soviet

513/697
36/133
174/94
11/63

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I think in this game you must produce the best armored tanks for experience reasons. Stug's are great and cheap, and the stug units only use stugs. And thy can be used as jagdpanzers as well. So they should be produced besides tigers. But on attack only half of them showes up, so they are not an answer to lacking tank quality problem.
In normal

Possum games my production is as follows...

The majority of Germany's tank production follows this path.... Pz-38(t)e to Pzkpfw-IIIj to StugIIIg to Panthers

I rarly build tigers or PzKpfw-IV at all

Frustrated with high tank losses and the dreadful counter attacks by masses of KV-1E's. Tigers seemed the answer to my problems, so I researched them.
I think research is not worth it, you just gave up too many production for a small time margin. I never resarch as germans I produce the best pzIII until PzIVg, then when tiger comes all tiger and stugIIIg. Of I'm i trouble I dont produce any jpz's just stug's massed. If I'm doing well, I will produce jagdpanthers

I have paid a price for my research costs. Pz divisions idle in summer against a unentrenched Soviet army. I had complete control of the air with good bomber support.


The fighter question is easy with the germans, fw all the way. I dont think me262a is worth its high cost. If you have enough fw's you dominate anyway, if you dont you need the numbers. Me262A is excellent in big numbers though (but then you are overkill anyway). In normal wir I wanted to try me410's after 43 november in my last game against tdv as my bomber force was very low. It is just one dogfght less then fw, with 44 load as fighter bomber. It did not go that far, but that would have been fun.

With the sooviets yak's are better early, but fighter bomber is needed so I go with la's in possum.


I agree but I have rarly if ever had the pleasure to equip airwings with Me-262A
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