EuroWifCon

[Joseignacio]

I would like to assist, but I still don't know if it will be possible.

Will any of the forum members do?

What do you think about this meeting?, any personal review or hope?

[fallgelb]

I don't understand your post (but I try to give an answer): Informations abaut the EuroWifCon are found on:

http://www.eurowif.de/

Date is 8th Octobre to 17th Octobre.

[Joseignacio]

I mean that I still don't know if my personal circumstances will allow me to go,.

Then, I am asking the rest of the forum members if they will go and about their experiences if they have already been there.

I knew the webpage already, but thanks for trying to help. [:)]

[fallgelb]

I have to work the time to and my family will veto my participation if not

Two of my friends were there each year and their feedback is everytime very positiv.
They say, that there is a inspiring Input from all the different games there and from the different approaches to playing strategies in other WIF-Groups. Without contact to more WIFFERs, that is: playing with the same peoples all the time, the learning curve is more flat.

Atmosphere should be postitive too.

[hjaco]

José you can expect approximately 30 persons to attend making up for 6 games of 5 players. No matter what your level of experience you are guaranteed serious competition which usually is more than a match for our American guests [:D]

But don't worry you can always get at a table with competition suited to your level and you will be amazed what you learn of unique new strategies and tricks - enough to rule your group at home for a long time to come.....

People are mostly very nice with excellent food and beer to good prices [8D]

[hjaco]

ORIGINAL: fallgelb

They say, that there is a inspiring Input from all the different games there and from the different approaches to playing strategies in other WIF-Groups. Without contact to more WIFFERs, that is: playing with the same peoples all the time, the learning curve is more flat.

Atmosphere should be postitive too.

I can second their experience - you learn a lot at such a convention.

[Joseignacio]

ORIGINAL: hjaco

José you can expect approximately 30 persons to attend making up for 6 games of 5 players. No matter what your level of experience you are guaranteed serious competition which usually is more than a match for our American guests [:D]

But don't worry you can always get at a table with competition suited to your level and you will be amazed what you learn of unique new strategies and tricks - enough to rule your group at home for a long time to come.....

People are mostly very nice with excellent food and beer to good prices [8D]

Thanks. Ok, so now it depends on if we make the trip to Japan or we consider it too expensive for now for us. If we don't, I will go, hopefully with one of my friends. I have the time, and the money is not a problem.

[composer99]

In the long run I could see going to this Con (haven't been yet) fairly easily since I can convince my fiancée that she would like to come for the Fairy-Tale Road tour. [:D]

[Joseignacio]

Hehe, finally it seems I will be able to assist. I am solving the last details but my wife is half-convinced, through promissing her that the rest of the holidays (10 days from the 20 original aprox.) we will go wherever in Europe she wants...

[fallgelb]

I am "allowed" to go there in 2011 if i spent 14 days in August 2011 at lago garda in italy with my family.
I'am planing forward in the company to achieve this!

[Joseignacio]

Hehehe, I am lucky in this aspect, unless there is a special situation, I can take my holidays whenever I want within the year, as far as the work is up to date and no big problem is foreseen...

Other mates assume my workload, as I do with theirs when I come back and they are on Holidays. This is one of the things that I am happier with, in my firm, you don't need to go on Holidays with the masses in August, and you can get big discount offers for resots not overcrowded.

[Joseignacio]

Here I am at the euro WIFCON, maybe someone else form the forum is too?

We allies have seriously been kicked in our *sses in my table, although I don't blame myself, I played UK and did it at least acceptably. The collapse of the russian and bad luck (chaining at least 14 impuses of fine weather when the german was attacking) took him in three turns from western Poland to the vicinity of Baku and Turkey all along the border of the european map.

We had sent resources, oil, build points, but nothing could stop the grey tide... the collapse was too total to recompose any serious line.

[Joseignacio]

Back from the Con and exhausted. Phew!

[MajorDude]

Did you bring any pictures of the gaming events back with you? [:)]

[brian brian]

what happened at the end of your game Jose? I've seen the Americans take out Turkey in that situation and get on with taking the Axis apart from there...

[Joseignacio]

ORIGINAL: MajorDude

Did you bring any pictures of the gaming events back with you? [:)]

No, but my wife did some that she will eventually download from her camera and some homemade videos part of which (along maybe with others) may be published on their website.

[Joseignacio]

ORIGINAL: brian brian

what happened at the end of your game Jose? I've seen the Americans take out Turkey in that situation and get on with taking the Axis apart from there...

The american player had not been very lucky with the chits, so he just entered the war that impulse, his production had been very low and he was focused on the pacific at that moment.

I had never seen in my life sink the russian front like that, we were playing tha optional that there are ZOCs in surprise, in this case I think the best tactic is to create a line in eastern poland or just before the axis leningrad-kiev is, to take advantage of the woods, the Pripet marshes, and to try to hold the hex with the three southern resources as much as possible or at least negate it to the german.

What this guy did was to leave some stacks defending Leningrad, finland and sth. else, and (if I recall well) leave a first line that was soon blown apart, with one unit stacks of militia and garrisons, leaving for a second line his best units.

This made it easier to defeat him twice. After the initial debacle, he reinforced the second line with all he could send or rail there, and he was trying to hold somehow the german. It seems he had not heard about the defence based on having a stack of 2 units every three hexes making a line of ZOC for which the german would have to destroy those stacks (usually in woods or cities) while it was denied Blitz attack, paying heavy losses.

To make things worse, weather was excellent for many turns and the turns didn't end (that 8 was difficult to achieve in that part of the game), except for one, where he had snow in the pripet, just in the right moment for the german, who had just faced his second line and moved some to his rearguard through it, making the beginning of two bags, North and South.

Then, maybe by bad planification or because of a blitz or sth like that, he found that his best units, a HQ (not sure if Zukhov) and one Armor corps were unsupplied and the OVERRUN by the german after a lucky stuka (50%) bombardment.

The collapse was total, except in Leningrad, Finland, a stack that was out of supply in Poland and maybe someone in Odessa, he had like 4 corps in all the Western USSR map. I sent him 1 petrol, 2 resourdes, 1 production point, ..., everything I could every turn but he lost too many units to recover, although we were using the option that I call "the zombies fight" option, where half of the dead in own land in defence "resurrect" every turn.

He had to run at max speed to the turkish border and Baku to avoid being destroyed 20:1, while the German did a strange drawing of two parallel lines that made two bags north and south of the USSR.

Then the german kicked the ressistants in the turkish border and entered Turkey. The alignment of Turkey gave the American the Chit he needed to enter the war but he had to deal with Japan using the surprise, so...

Then, who knows what could have happened, but since the German had cleared the first two maps of Russian units (except Finland and Leningrad, although they were ripe for taking with finnish and german contingents nearby) the Russian guy surrendered because it was clear the game was utterly lost.

So the american didn't have enough time to enjoy his production gear up, nor build the necessary units, much less to arrive in Turkey or Palestina, buit even if he did so, the game had no future, the only thing the german needed to do was simply increment more and more the garrisons and fast answer units for a possible D-Day, with a huge production backing him.

I had made a blocking little combo with some territorials, a HQ wich I sent from England and a Motorized unit that was in Cairo and could have resisted perfectly the few (6/7/8...) units that could leave Turkey, but german units were starting to arrive by train...

The americans, when they had enough units as a result of their gearing up (it means 3/4 turns later) could start to do something in Turkey or somewhere else, but they would probably find it too consolidated.

As for attacking from Turkey, I am curious, because in the Asian part it seems for me extremely difficult due to the mountain terrain, which can be well defended and makes movement very slow. I guess they did through Istambul and Bulgaria, am I right?

[brian brian]

no, they just attacked in from Syria and once the Axis were committed to a battle line there, started dropping PARAs with plenty of long-range air-superiority until one of them killed the unit in Ankara and invasion forces eventually played enough smash-mouth land combat (taking +2 and +3 attacks, Russian/Chinese style) to reach Istanbul. After that they re-deployed their assets for an attack on Italy as in a normal game and in general put enough pressure on the Axis that the Russians were able to return from Asia.

I hope to hear more of the results from this year's Con...how many tables, how many victories for each side, etc.

[Joseignacio]

Well, I hope this year they will input some more info in their webpage.

We were like 30, from many countries, although from half to two thirds were German, logically.

There were 5 or 6 tables.

I really don't know the rest of the statistics. In my table the game ended early because of the surrender of the Russian, wich in fact was the surrender of the allied side because the situation was really, really bad.

Then three of us played a Pacific Scenario, which was bound not to end because of time, in which the Japanese was soon overcome by stony british resistance in Burma, with a forwarded defece in the Siam mountains, completed with a land based fighters and naval bombers disputing supremacy in the China sea.

The Commonwealth managed to keep a port in the island of Java that served as a base to recover it, allowing more bases for planes in that area, and the Borneo oil was in a serious danger due to American marines.

Moreover, the american had varied luck with subs and navals, but in a certain moment, and in exchange of heavy loses in those and other previous combats, their subs were able to destroy most of the japanese convoys, so it was impossible to produce with more than 8/10 factories and very difficult to supply units in Siam, Indonesia, ...

Allied victory. I was the Commanwealth but due to my few experience in the Pacific, I must give most of my possible credit to my ally, who advised me severla times of serious errors or possible advantages.

Even the japanese warned me that if I moved a certain unit to a certain place it would probably be out of supply for a long time. In this aspect I need to say that in my table they were extremely comprehensive about the other players evident mistakes or oversights, even too extreme IMO, however I cannot say anything against it since I was probably the one who got more profit out of it.

[Vincenzo_Beretta]

ORIGINAL: fallgelb

I am "allowed" to go there in 2011 if i spent 14 days in August 2011 at lago garda in italy with my family.
I'am planing forward in the company to achieve this!

Lago di Garda is one of the very best places in Italy, if you like quiet, pre-alpine envirnments and medieval castles (they are scattered all around the lake and there is a beautiful one in nearby Trento). I went vacationing there when I was a kid, at Riva. Where do you plan to stay?