Vietnam Combat Operation 1 - Aces8 vs AI
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Vietnam Combat Operation 1 - Aces8 vs AI
Hi guys this will be my first TOAW AAR. I have chosen to play Boonierats (Stéphane Moutin-Luyat) excellent Combat operations Vietnam series. I've been planning on doing this all summer and finally had some free time so here it is. I know this has been done before but I'd figure I'd try my hand at it. Lets have fun [:)]
Historical background 1965
As 1965 began the Viet Cong had entered a new phase of their insurgency against the South Vietnamese
government. The Communists departed from their usual hit and run guerrilla tactics and engaged the armed forces of the Republic of Vietnam (RVNAF) near the village of Binh Gia, 40 miles east of Saigon, in a pitched battle which lasted from 28 December 1964 until 1 January 1965.
During the struggle for Binh Gia, two regiments from the 9th VC Division ambushed and virtually destroyed two battalions of South Vietnamese troops, including the 4th Battalion, Vietnamese Marine Corps, and inflicted heavy casualties on relieving armored and mechanized forces.
According to General Westmoreland, Commander, US Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, Binh Gia marked
the start of the final Communist offensive, "it meant the beginning of an intensive military challenge which the Vietnamese government could not meet with its own
resources".
On 7 February 1965, the Viet Cong attacked the US compound at Pleiku in the Central Highlands, a
provocation that altered the entire course of the war. In the early morning of the 7th, the Viet Cong attacking force laid down a mortar barrage on the advisors'quarters and airfield, killing 9 Americans, wounding 128 others, and damaging or destroying 18 aircraft. At the urging of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and with the concurrence of Ambassador Taylor, President Lyndon B. Johnson ordered retaliatory air strikes against North Vietnam. Addressing the nation later that day, the President announced the
withdrawal of U.S. dependents from Vietnam and warned that the United States might take further actions. He declared: "I have ordered the deployment to South Vietnam of a HAWK air defense battalion. Other
reinforcements, in units and individuals, may follow". Although chances of air retaliation by the small North Vietnamese Air Force were slim, the U.S. Government considered that the deployment of the HAWK missiles in conjunction with the air strike, code named FLAMING DART, on 7 February, would convince Hanoi of American determination to support South Vietnam. The Communists, nevertheless, continued attacks against U.S. installations. On 10 February, the Viet Cong destroyed a U.S. enlisted billet in the coastal city of Qui Nhon, killing 23 U.S. soldiers and wounding 22 others. Once more, President
Johnson, on the recommendation of the Joint Chiefs, ordered U.S. aircraft to bomb the north in retaliation. On 11 February, more than 100 Navy carrier planes struck at military targets in North Vietnam. Following the Qui Nhon attack, on 11 February the Joints Chiefs of Staff forwarded to the Secretary of Defense a program of reprisal actions to be taken against Communist provocations. The chiefs observed that the retaliatory air raids against North Vietnam had not achieved the
intended effect. They recommended in its place a "sustained pressure" campaign to include continuing air
strikes against selected targets in North Vietnam, naval bombardment, covert operations, intelligence patrols and cross-border operations in Laos, and the landing of American troops in South Vietnam. On 13 February, President Johnson approved a "limited and measured" air campaign against North Vietnam, which took the code name ROLLING THUNDER. The ROLLING THUNDER campaign was delayed until 2 March because of a
combination of bad weather and the instability of the South Vietnamese political situation. Confronted with both a deteriorating political and military situation, General Westmoreland directed his deputy,
Lieutenant General John L. Throckmorton, to determine what American ground forces were needed for base
security. After completing his survey, Throckmorton recommended the deployment of a three-battalion Marine expeditionary brigade to Da Nang because of the vital importance of the base for any air campaign against the north and "the questionable capability of the Vietnamese to protect the base". On 22 February, General Westmoreland forwarded this request to Admiral Sharp who in turn informed the JCS
that he agreed with Westmoreland's assessment of the situation. Although expressing strong reservations about sending any American ground forces to Vietnam, Ambassador Taylor, in a message to the State Department on 22 February, agreed to placing one Marine BLT at Da Nang "in view of General Westmoreland's understandable concern for the safety of this important base".
(Taken from U.S. Marines in Vietnam. The Landing and the
Buildup, 1965 by Jack Shulimson and Maj Charles M.
Johnson, Washington, DC: History and Museums Division,
Headquarters U.S.M.C., 1978)
government. The Communists departed from their usual hit and run guerrilla tactics and engaged the armed forces of the Republic of Vietnam (RVNAF) near the village of Binh Gia, 40 miles east of Saigon, in a pitched battle which lasted from 28 December 1964 until 1 January 1965.
During the struggle for Binh Gia, two regiments from the 9th VC Division ambushed and virtually destroyed two battalions of South Vietnamese troops, including the 4th Battalion, Vietnamese Marine Corps, and inflicted heavy casualties on relieving armored and mechanized forces.
According to General Westmoreland, Commander, US Military Assistance Command, Vietnam, Binh Gia marked
the start of the final Communist offensive, "it meant the beginning of an intensive military challenge which the Vietnamese government could not meet with its own
resources".
On 7 February 1965, the Viet Cong attacked the US compound at Pleiku in the Central Highlands, a
provocation that altered the entire course of the war. In the early morning of the 7th, the Viet Cong attacking force laid down a mortar barrage on the advisors'quarters and airfield, killing 9 Americans, wounding 128 others, and damaging or destroying 18 aircraft. At the urging of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and with the concurrence of Ambassador Taylor, President Lyndon B. Johnson ordered retaliatory air strikes against North Vietnam. Addressing the nation later that day, the President announced the
withdrawal of U.S. dependents from Vietnam and warned that the United States might take further actions. He declared: "I have ordered the deployment to South Vietnam of a HAWK air defense battalion. Other
reinforcements, in units and individuals, may follow". Although chances of air retaliation by the small North Vietnamese Air Force were slim, the U.S. Government considered that the deployment of the HAWK missiles in conjunction with the air strike, code named FLAMING DART, on 7 February, would convince Hanoi of American determination to support South Vietnam. The Communists, nevertheless, continued attacks against U.S. installations. On 10 February, the Viet Cong destroyed a U.S. enlisted billet in the coastal city of Qui Nhon, killing 23 U.S. soldiers and wounding 22 others. Once more, President
Johnson, on the recommendation of the Joint Chiefs, ordered U.S. aircraft to bomb the north in retaliation. On 11 February, more than 100 Navy carrier planes struck at military targets in North Vietnam. Following the Qui Nhon attack, on 11 February the Joints Chiefs of Staff forwarded to the Secretary of Defense a program of reprisal actions to be taken against Communist provocations. The chiefs observed that the retaliatory air raids against North Vietnam had not achieved the
intended effect. They recommended in its place a "sustained pressure" campaign to include continuing air
strikes against selected targets in North Vietnam, naval bombardment, covert operations, intelligence patrols and cross-border operations in Laos, and the landing of American troops in South Vietnam. On 13 February, President Johnson approved a "limited and measured" air campaign against North Vietnam, which took the code name ROLLING THUNDER. The ROLLING THUNDER campaign was delayed until 2 March because of a
combination of bad weather and the instability of the South Vietnamese political situation. Confronted with both a deteriorating political and military situation, General Westmoreland directed his deputy,
Lieutenant General John L. Throckmorton, to determine what American ground forces were needed for base
security. After completing his survey, Throckmorton recommended the deployment of a three-battalion Marine expeditionary brigade to Da Nang because of the vital importance of the base for any air campaign against the north and "the questionable capability of the Vietnamese to protect the base". On 22 February, General Westmoreland forwarded this request to Admiral Sharp who in turn informed the JCS
that he agreed with Westmoreland's assessment of the situation. Although expressing strong reservations about sending any American ground forces to Vietnam, Ambassador Taylor, in a message to the State Department on 22 February, agreed to placing one Marine BLT at Da Nang "in view of General Westmoreland's understandable concern for the safety of this important base".
(Taken from U.S. Marines in Vietnam. The Landing and the
Buildup, 1965 by Jack Shulimson and Maj Charles M.
Johnson, Washington, DC: History and Museums Division,
Headquarters U.S.M.C., 1978)
Turn 1 Mission
Well my first mission is to Land the Marine Landing force at Red Beach North of Da Nang
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Turn 1 Marines land
Land the Landing Force
Naval Task force 76 has landed the 3rd Battalion of the 9th Marines at "Red" Beach north of Da Nang on the morning of March 8th 1965. The marines are greeted with flowers and photo ops as they land. Brigadier General Karch is in overall command of the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade. The 3/9th Marines proceed from Red Beach to secure the Da Nang Airbase. The 3/9th Marines are followed that day by the 1st Battalion 3rd Marines which is flown directly to Da Nang airbase from Okinawa.
Naval Task force 76 has landed the 3rd Battalion of the 9th Marines at "Red" Beach north of Da Nang on the morning of March 8th 1965. The marines are greeted with flowers and photo ops as they land. Brigadier General Karch is in overall command of the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade. The 3/9th Marines proceed from Red Beach to secure the Da Nang Airbase. The 3/9th Marines are followed that day by the 1st Battalion 3rd Marines which is flown directly to Da Nang airbase from Okinawa.
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Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127
Operation Quyet Thang 127
Also on Turn 1 I have another mission after landing the Marines. This mission is for the ARVN 3rd Airborne Battalion. This mission takes place on March 14th 1965. The 3rd Airborne is based in An Khe. The ARVN have received intelligence stating that the NLF have a POW camp at An Ninh. I helicoptered the 3rd Airborne BTL into the area but found no sign of the enemy or any POW's.
Also on Turn 1 I have another mission after landing the Marines. This mission is for the ARVN 3rd Airborne Battalion. This mission takes place on March 14th 1965. The 3rd Airborne is based in An Khe. The ARVN have received intelligence stating that the NLF have a POW camp at An Ninh. I helicoptered the 3rd Airborne BTL into the area but found no sign of the enemy or any POW's.
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RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127
Gonna be following this one [8D] Are you using 3.4 or the older version?
RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127
Look forward to reading this one Aces im just starting Vol 2 [:D]
The battle of Medjerda is almost forgotten,but was fought against highly disciplined German troops and blasted a route straight to Tunis it was a perfect infiltration battle and should be remembered as the best fought British battle of the war.
RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127
ORIGINAL: Boonierat
Gonna be following this one [8D] Are you using 3.4 or the older version?
Cool [8D], I'm using the older version
RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127
ORIGINAL: sapper32
Look forward to reading this one Aces im just starting Vol 2 [:D]
Cool I hope you do an AAR [:)]
Turn 1 Kannack overrun by NLF Battalion
Kannack CIDG camp Overrun by Viet Cong
The Kannack CIDG (Civilian Irregular Defense Group) Camp in Binh Dinh Province has been overrun by an NLF Battalion. The CIDG force at Kannack has retreated south of the camp.
The Kannack CIDG (Civilian Irregular Defense Group) Camp in Binh Dinh Province has been overrun by an NLF Battalion. The CIDG force at Kannack has retreated south of the camp.
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Turn 2
Turn 2 has begun the initial missions have been accomplished. I only saw the one attack from the Viet Cong so far at Kannack other then that a pretty quiet first week with no sign of the enemy anywhere else.
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Turn 2 Marines at Da Nang
Da Nang Air base secured
The Marines of the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade have secured the Da Nang airbase and dug in. The White house has limited their area of operations to the Air base perimeter.
The Marines of the 9th Marine Expeditionary Brigade have secured the Da Nang airbase and dug in. The White house has limited their area of operations to the Air base perimeter.
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Turn 2 - 3rd ARVN Airborne Bn
3rd ARVN Airborne Bn Returns to An Khe
The 3rd ARVN Airborne Bn has returned from Operation Quyet Thang 127 to An Khe on foot. They have encountered no enemy forces on the return journey.
The 3rd ARVN Airborne Bn has returned from Operation Quyet Thang 127 to An Khe on foot. They have encountered no enemy forces on the return journey.
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Turn 2 - Kannack retaken
Kannack CIDG camp retaken
The 7th ARVN Airborne Battalion has been airlifted into the overrun CIDG camp at Kannack from Pleiku. The enemy force have already slipped away avoiding contact. The CIDG Bn are reorganizing south of the camp after the recent battle. The camp is secure for now.
The 7th ARVN Airborne Battalion has been airlifted into the overrun CIDG camp at Kannack from Pleiku. The enemy force have already slipped away avoiding contact. The CIDG Bn are reorganizing south of the camp after the recent battle. The camp is secure for now.
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RE: Turn 1 Operation Quyet Thang 127
Mmmm think im gonna wait until ive upgraded to 3.4 im on turn 2 so not to far into the game so will restart soon [:)]ORIGINAL: Aces8
ORIGINAL: sapper32
Look forward to reading this one Aces im just starting Vol 2 [:D]
Cool I hope you do an AAR [:)]
The battle of Medjerda is almost forgotten,but was fought against highly disciplined German troops and blasted a route straight to Tunis it was a perfect infiltration battle and should be remembered as the best fought British battle of the war.
Turn 2 - ROK Dove Engineers
Republic of Korea "Dove" unit arrives
The ROK Dove unit has arrived at Bien Hoa. This unit consists of an Engineer Battalion, a transport company, a Marine Engineer company, a Security Battalion, a service unit, a control group and a mobile hospital.
The ROK Dove unit has arrived at Bien Hoa. This unit consists of an Engineer Battalion, a transport company, a Marine Engineer company, a Security Battalion, a service unit, a control group and a mobile hospital.
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Turn 3 - summary
Turn 3 has begun it has been very quiet this turn with no sightings of the enemy. Suoi Doi CIDG Camp closed.
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Turn 3 - 716th MP's
716th MP Battalion arrives
The 716th Military Police Battalion have arrived at Tan Son Nhut Airport. They have moved into downtown Saigon to reinforce the city.
The 716th Military Police Battalion have arrived at Tan Son Nhut Airport. They have moved into downtown Saigon to reinforce the city.
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Turn 4 - Begins
Turn 4 has begun several operations are planned this week. On March 30th a A bomb explodes in a car parked in front of the U.S. Embassy in Saigon, virtually destroying the building and killing 19 Vietnamese, 2 Americans, and 1 Filipino; 183 others were injured. Congress quickly appropriated $1 million to reconstruct the embassy. Although some U.S. military leaders advocate special retaliatory raids on North Vietnam, President Lyndon B. Johnson refuses. Here is the news summary at the beginning of the turn.
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Turn 4 - Operation Quyet Thang 512
Operation Quyet Thang 512
The 5th ARVN Airborne Battalion has begun Operation Quyet Thang 512 a search and destroy operation between Tam Ky and Tien Phuoc in Quang Tin Province. The 5th ARVN Abn Bn detected no enemy units in the area as it cleared the road to Tien Phuoc. Another quiet operation with no sign of the Viet Cong.
The 5th ARVN Airborne Battalion has begun Operation Quyet Thang 512 a search and destroy operation between Tam Ky and Tien Phuoc in Quang Tin Province. The 5th ARVN Abn Bn detected no enemy units in the area as it cleared the road to Tien Phuoc. Another quiet operation with no sign of the Viet Cong.
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