What should I do with all my command points?

[bloomstombs2]

I have 330, not sure what to spend it on as axis, I know with russians i can build stuff, but I have already organised my army.

I know I am missing something here.

[Klydon]

How is your command loading? If you have overloaded HQ's then I don't know the army is done organizing then.

How about support units? Got the pioneer units where you want them with your units that will be busting cities and fortifications? How about stug units with the mountain units for winter defense/attack?

Some fortifications may not be a bad idea in the right spots.

[bloomstombs2]

I cant figure out how to get the pioneer units where I want them. I have been looking for a way to transfer those guys but cant seem to find it.

[cookie monster]

Click on the pioneer unit

Click on set HQ

Make sure OKH is in the range box

If not move OKH closer

Transfer to OKH

LOCK OKH

Next turn click on division you wish to receive Pioneer

Click on ASSIGN Support Unit

Pioneer will be in the list

[krieger]

Reassign CUs between diferent HQs so they dont get the command penalty in battles (units from diferent commands fight at a somewhat reduced strength, a clasical wargame rule anyway). I found this very helpful after the blizzard.

I also expend many points with the axis allies, specially rumanians. Organizing them takes some APs, which is good to not reach the 500 APs cap.

[krieger]

I tranfered all my rumanian units to Army group Antonescu so AGS is not beyond command capacity. Also striped the 11th Army off Rumanians virtually from the very beggining, making it an only german army. Lately I've transferred 3 geman divs to the rumanian armies (2 divs to 4Rum and 1 div to 3Rum). These are only examples of things that you can and gonna need to do actually imo.

[Baron von Beer]

ORIGINAL: cookie monster

Click on the pioneer unit

Click on set HQ

Make sure OKH is in the range box

If not move OKH closer

Transfer to OKH

LOCK OKH

Next turn click on division you wish to receive Pioneer

Click on ASSIGN Support Unit

Pioneer will be in the list

Unfortunately there seems to be an issue with this. Especially with corps, the list is limited to 19 slots. You could have OKH within legit transfer range but not have it as an option. The PZG 3 area on Turn 1 of the GC is a good place to examine this. Some HQs can send SUs no more than 6 hexes because of the high density.

End result you could have one corps that is 9 hexes from OKH but can't send SUs there, while another that is 14 hexes away can.

[bloomstombs2]

Thank you, I understand how to do it now.


I was out of range before, OKH jumped on the train and got in range (and yes sometimes theres too many HQ in one spot which could play better imo).

Guys just a couple more questions on this issue.

Im still confused by add sub... If I want to assign attachments myself, should I lock everything? The tutorial I read said to add 1 support for each div or corps under that HQ. But if I could just assign directly from OKH myself this would probably make alot more sense to me.


OK question number 2 is, will having more than one pioneer in a division do any good ?
Should I attach any other type of support to a unit thats sole purpose is to attack cross river, swamps, urban/heavy urban hexes.

Thanks much.



EDIT ONE MORE QUESTION

Do pioneers benefit the CU on the turn you put them in the CU? I see an astrix, but I also see the CV go up by one often making me believe it does have immediate effect.

[2ndACR]

The atrix means they cannot be moved again until next turn. it has immediate effect.

Your Corps HQ's will auto assign support units during battles, not always the best pick. One defense, I always leave a Stug in a Corp HQ in 41. Not sure, but I see that unit assigned a lot during defense battles.

never tried the multiple pioneers to a div, but might try it.

[bloomstombs2]

Thanks for the fast reply, Ill give that a try.

Also what did that poster mean theres a penalty between different CU in a hq? Did he mean they are out of range of their assigned HQ?

Could you explain that again ?

[2ndACR]

It does not always cost 1 AP to assign a SU or a div somewhere else. Heck, I have seen it cost 16+ AP's to get a Romanian div out of my German Corps and assign to Romanian Corps.

That is what he means, it might cost more AP's if dice roll fails etc.

[cookie monster]

He meant when in battle all participants should be reporting to the same Corps

If not you can get less than 100% Command value

Sometimes 90% CV or 80%

With the penalty it makes winning battles harder due to the final CV being 80/90% of the whole

[bloomstombs2]

Even in planned attacks? Man i didnt know that.



Ok another thing has been really bugging me, sorry for all the questions but I am learning leaps and bounds right now.

I have 1st 2nd and 4rth romanian mountain brigades. Why cant I combine them? I put them all in a stack and click build up/break down. Nothing happens.

Id like to combine some of these crappy units to make a semi decent one if I can.

[2ndACR]

Nope, you cannot combine those units, nor can you divide allied units. Only German can break down to regiments.

You need to train them up. They get pretty good after a while and can save your backside come blizzard.

[bloomstombs2]

OK i c, thanks again.

Organising my entire army. Man its a mess.

Already spent 300 cp.

[2ndACR]

I usually wait until I settle in for winter and then do a massive re-organization. But you can start early. I will do some as I hit the 500 cap limit just so I don't waste the new points.

IIRC, they will convert to div strength later. But if you look, they are already almost div strength. 11,000 troops per IIRC.

[bloomstombs2]

If I combine a stug with a infantry unit (with a pioneer0, will it hurt it in a city/river/swamp attack?

Or will it still help. Or do nothing?

Oh and what about mobile flak, and non mobile flak. Will either hurt in city attacks?

[2ndACR]

Anything helps. I have not noticed any dis advantage having Stug assigned.

Those flak units that have 88mm will help in defense. I think there are mobile and regular. I usually leave them in Corp HQ for auto assignment, but only 2 per HQ. I never perm attach them. The small company sized a lot of people disband. I save them and in 42 perm assign the company sized to my armor div.

There is no sure fire though. Still lots of experimenting and such to be done.

Protect those mountain units. I give them as many easy attacks as I can to get that morale up. You get them to 60+ exp and they are very nice. Heck, all the allies are good once they hit the 60+ exp range.

[heliodorus04]

ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

It does not always cost 1 AP to assign a SU or a div somewhere else. Heck, I have seen it cost 16+ AP's to get a Romanian div out of my German Corps and assign to Romanian Corps.

That is what he means, it might cost more AP's if dice roll fails etc.

It costs more to move a unit between armies and even more between army groups.
I'm trying to see if it's better (cheaper in AP) to first go from an Army to an Army Group (1 turn) then to another Army (the turn after that), or if you need to change Army Groups, as so many do in AGC and AGS, it might be better to go straight to OKH and then on to somewhere else, but I haven't had opportunity in the scenarios I'm currently playing (which are both AGN).

It's certainly less expensive to go to the AG or OKH than straight to another command in another AG, but I don't know if there's a cost-savings yet overall to do the 2-turn transition - haven't tried.

[krieger]

ORIGINAL: bloomstombs

I have 1st 2nd and 4rth romanian mountain brigades. Why cant I combine them? I put them all in a stack and click build up/break down. Nothing happens.

Id like to combine some of these crappy units to make a semi decent one if I can.

Dont worry, I asked myself same thing at the beggining of my game, but in 42 they become Mountain Divs as per a TOE upgrade. You can check each units TOE upgrades schedule in its TOE window (bottom right inside this window) inside its detail window, which helps a lot figuring out when these changes are going to happen. For example, when the blizzard ended I had around 5400 AFVs, as I didnt make any operations with them in dec41-feb42, but after some weeks panzer divisions become... 1942 pz divs so they have less tanks. And right now I have 4400 AFVs, just for the TOE changes. Although this panzer divisions are better than the 41 ones imo.