Once Again into the Breach - Mike (J) vs. tc464 (A)

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: pws1225

Thanks Pax, I'll check it out.

Good luck. This is one of the key things that allows you to mix things up a bit. If you keep to realistic landing sites, it doesn't make that much difference, but it does make some.

As I play AI, this isn't a big deal. But one day I will be able to play a PBEM, and I assuredly do not want my opponent to know exactly where/when all my initial landings will be. Good AFB's can crucify you if you follow the historical setup too closely. They DO know where to go, right? [;)] Look at CR's AAR's ...

[Dan Nichols]

You must use loading troops only, do not try to load supply with the extra troops. You can get a lot loaded on turn 1.

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

ORIGINAL: pws1225

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Why are you obsessed with the preloaded units? You can easily add more shipping and load more units, even for the first turn bonus TFs.

Really? I'll have to experiment with that. Do the additional units actually load and make the first turn move on Dec 7?

Yes.

Well, this is something new. I never knew that. Guess I'll be experimenting a bit this evening. [;)]

[Dan Nichols]

I must say that I am a bit shocked. I thought this was well known and standard procedure.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

I must say that I am a bit shocked. I thought this was well known and standard procedure.

Some of the most experienced players here haven't done a Turn 1 in a few years. Once you get a PBEM game going, they last a long time. No reason to look back at Dec 7. [;)] However, they are the ones who know what/how to plan for 44/45/46. They've been there.

[Mike Solli]

Dan, the learning curve never ends. We all learn continuously from each other as well as trial and error.

[Dan Nichols]

Apparently my comments are not needed since all the experienced players know so much more than me.

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

Apparently my comments are not needed since all the experienced players know so much more than me.

Dan .. you have sort of an intersting atitude .. in GreyJoy's thread you went out of the way to point out that "I was wrong" before you really understood my assumptions .. here you seem to desire to point out your superority knowing some small detail where I believe the group is indicating they really are not interested in a pecking order of who knows more or what details ..just to say details like this often change depending on version level and there is soooo much to remember that posters gladly offer help not to show how smart they are but in a genuine interest to contribute ...[;)]


Ok back to the war Mike!

[pws1225]

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

You must use loading troops only, do not try to load supply with the extra troops. You can get a lot loaded on turn 1.

I've been experimenting with this idea and you're right! You can bring alot more to the party on turn 1 I had previously thought. I wish I had known this before I started my current game, but c'est la guerre. But what else is a first game for but lessons in tough love!

[Mike Solli]

ORIGINAL: pws1225

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

You must use loading troops only, do not try to load supply with the extra troops. You can get a lot loaded on turn 1.

I've been experimenting with this idea and you're right! You can bring alot more to the party on turn 1 I had previously thought. I wish I had known this before I started my current game, but c'est la guerre. But what else is a first game for but lessons in tough love!

Interesting. I've found that I can't really bring much of anything else. I've tried loading units and only small slices load, even though I set it to load troops only. I also discovered that the P-40 unit at Iba can be disbanded and all the planes and pilots vanish so the Allied player can avoid losing them. The upside is that they're not available to kill Japanese pilots. I think I'm going to land all of the initial forces at Iba and then the 48 Div and 65 Bde at San Fernando later. That way, if Ted is concerned, he'll disband the P-40s. If not, I'll get a shot at killing them.

Dan, for your information, the last time I did a 7 Dec turn was when AE came out (2009?). The time before that was 2005. I don't do them very often.

[Mike Solli]

Ok, the Philippines plan has come together. Now for Malaya. I can get 3 infantry regiments landed at Kuantan, but losses are pretty severe. I'm thinking of not landing anywhere in Malaya on 7 Dec. I'll just bomb both Kota Bharu and Kuantan. On 8 Dec, Kaga will offload her Vals and upload the 18 Zeros from Yamada. The 9 Claude Yamada det will upgrade to Zeros on 8 Dec and will fly to Kaga on 9 or 10 Dec. So, on 8 Dec, Kaga will have 36 Zeros with another 9 arriving a day or two later. On 8 Dec, Kaga will fly support for the Kuantan invasion with, say 30 of the 36 Zeros and the two Oscar sentai will fly LRCAP over Kuantan. This should reduce losses to my shipping and invasion troops and hopefully increase losses to the RAF. What do you guys think?

[Dan Nichols]

I guess people didn't understand my first post about this. I am still a bit
surprised that I know about this and it seems a lot of people don't. It was
just something i didn't expect. I will be happy to go back to my AI games and
not spend time here.

[Mike Solli]

Dan, I don't disagree with you. I suspect it may be that I didn't allocate enough transport for each unit. If that is the case, I'd have to start over in order to be able to do it. Maybe next time. It'll cost me a couple of days at San Fernando. I can live with that. Thanks.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Dan Nichols

I guess people didn't understand my first post about this. I am still a bit
surprised that I know about this and it seems a lot of people don't. It was
just something i didn't expect. I will be happy to go back to my AI games and
not spend time here.

Relax dude. Don't take offense so easily. Your observations are meritorious and welcome to old salts and noobs alike. I learned something from them too. Thank you for sharing...

What Mike and PaxMondo were saying was that we continue to learn even though we've been playing the game for years. That's all. It's amazing that way. No one was trying to put you down or downplay your game experiences. [:)]

[Mike Solli]

And....it's off.....again! [:D]

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

And....it's off.....again! [:D]

Whoo-Hoo!!!!

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Mike Solli

...On 8 Dec, Kaga will fly support for the Kuantan invasion with, say 30 of the 36 Zeros and the two Oscar sentai will fly LRCAP over Kuantan. This should reduce losses to my shipping and invasion troops and hopefully increase losses to the RAF. What do you guys think?

I think the RAF is going to bug out. I think if he tries to contest your landing, you've got enough to really hurt him. You should be able to have Nates in Kota Bura by the 9th to provide releif. Yeah, think you're in good shape.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy


What Mike and PaxMondo were saying was that we continue to learn even though we've been playing the game for years. That's all. It's amazing that way. No one was trying to put you down or downplay your game experiences. [:)]

Plus the fact with one day turns, you got over a thousand turns to go. Turn 1 is no more important than any other turn ... [;)]

[Cribtop]

Go git 'im again, Mike! Banzai!

[Admiral Mitscher]

I can tell you guys that this is a very, very scary place for a AFB to be reading. There are some extremely diabolical ideas being hatched in here. You Guy's are going to give some of us AFB's some headaches, and a lot of sleepless nights.