snipers

JTGEN · Post by **JTGEN** » Sat Feb 03, 2001 7:22 pm

To Tortfeasor

I have no good links. I remember the sniper giving interwiew to TV a while back. He was injured in the chin and could not speak well. He was not injured when sniping but in the trench stopping an assault as they needed everybody there and could not keep him just sniping.

If you find good links, let me know too. I would really like to know how the Soviets feeled about the 'kukushkas' or kuckoos as they called the snipers.

krull · Post by **krull** » Sun Feb 04, 2001 3:16 am

Well i spent almost 40 years as one. Snipers once the fire one AT most 2 shots its time to move. As for Not being able to hit them in a 3 hex area HAHAHA. I have a nice scar on my back from a regualr Marine In 1968 who thought i was charlie paying a vist. Dont underestimate a regular Joe. Some special unit and USMC types recieve extensive training in marksmanship. Thing I dislike about Spwaw snipers is there stupid. Why they hell woulda sniper be in an open field unless he had no choice. Also buildings are death traps. Unless it has an escape path. I wouldnt be seen in one and if i was i'd left as fast as a could.

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BruceAZ_MatrixForum · Post by **BruceAZ_MatrixForum** » Sun Feb 04, 2001 8:23 am

If you want die hard snipers and are near impossible to find, try a jungle scenario with Japanese snipers. They are pure hell...

Bruce
Semper Fi

Tortfeasor · Post by **Tortfeasor** » Sun Feb 04, 2001 10:25 am

To JTGEN

I have found som good sniper links, I shall send them soon to this thread.

ps.
one more word of you and you are a Veteran.

Tortfeasor · Post by **Tortfeasor** » Sun Feb 04, 2001 2:14 pm

About those Sniper links, here is a couple of links. http://guns.connect.fi/gow/hayha.html http://guns.connect.fi/gow/QA2.html http://guns.connect.fi/gow/linx.html

Anomaly27 · Post by **Anomaly27** » Mon Feb 05, 2001 2:44 am

some links:

another sniper list (some Germans and a whole bunch of Soviets) http://wio.newmail.ru/tank/sniper.htm

an incomplete list of Soviet tank aces http://wio.newmail.ru/tank/ww2tank.htm

panzerfist · Post by **panzerfist** » Tue Feb 06, 2001 10:02 am

so it seems we have established some things regarding snipers:

they should be hard to spot in the trees;
they should never be out in the open; and
being in buildings is good, sometimes.

so whats up matrix? is there some patch we can add that will make snipers a little more sniperish?

seriously - i dont think snipers in buildings is too terrible of an idea. after all, werent snipers running around in both rubble and the forrest killing people? id like to see them as more of a tool and not just the lone guy running around trying to kill someone. i have read that snipers who shoot from the same place more than once often dig their graves there. but i have discovered that sometimes snipers are easier to spot than 12 men in a group.

well - im done babbling about the snipers. please let us know if anything will change in upcoming versions of this game regarding them.

thanks

p/f

JTGEN · Post by **JTGEN** » Wed Feb 07, 2001 10:57 pm

Thanks tortfeasor.

Interesting links. Probably should check the book from library.

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 7:58 pm

Hello all

just played some "sniper test" scenarios and
noticed the following:

1. "Sniper sniping..."
No matter what experience and cover, the sniper will be "sighted" by any good order infantry type unit at ranges of 4 hexes or less. (with line of sight of course)
Green snipers - about 5,6 hexes.
After detection, theyre easy kills.

2. "Sniper hiding.." (human player of course)
In good cover (stone build., rough etc ) the sniper will be sighted if you almost "kick in the door". (2, better 1-0 Hexes)
After detection, the sniper is an easy kill.

3. "AI Snipers"
They seem to prefer sniping mostly in the op-fire phase, but not only and then at "enemy sighted" range. --- With good experience, cover -- 7-9 hexes.
Then there seems to be a tendency "stop firing" range of about 6-4 hexes, if you dont
close them with more than "cautious advance". (1 hex/turn )
And then, once sighted....easy kills.

hm...Seems not too unrealistic to me, except for the "easy kills".
(Veteran) Snipers shouldnt fire anymore at ranges of 4 or less and then withdraw!
But tell this the "AI" !?

As human player, you can keep this in mind and have your snipers
survive a little longer. Their effects (kills) are quite ok, I guess.

Ok... not much "news" here....
Any comments?

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RockinHarry

Arralen · Post by **Arralen** » Sat Feb 10, 2001 10:47 pm

Originally posted by RockinHarry:
just played some "sniper test" scenarios and
noticed the following:
...
Any comments?

Question: How did you test?
Did you have C&C on and set them to "defense", or did you leave C&C off and just waited one turn do give them time to get into cover?

Arralen

RockinHarry · Post by **RockinHarry** » Sun Feb 11, 2001 4:51 am

Hello Arralen

Originally posted by Arralen:
Question: How did you test?
Did you have C&C on and set them to "defense", or did you leave C&C off and just waited one turn do give them time to get into cover?

The latter. (in 2 player hotseat)

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RockinHarry