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When you know before the turn about the situation (which many times you do not know ahead of time, of course) then you can set the TB to use bombs and have them glide bomb.

Well, yes, that's true, but hasn't glide bombing been nerfed in one of the recent betas cause it was too effective?

However you obviously need crack pilots (70 NavT and 70 NavB) to do that...and as Japan, a part from the KB pilots, i seldom have this option unfortunately[;)]
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Unluckly Brad knows i'm at Truk, so the surprise won't be achived this time. I wonder what he will try to do...a fast grab-shot with a fast transport to Tabiutea, covered by the LBA provided from Araroe? Or a more normal amphib landing?...i guess he'll try the first one, knowing my CVs are close...
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or won't try anything and sit tight.. "you've got your CVs all the way there ? Well just come at me and bomb my precious tfs under my fighter LBA umbrella... I'll just stay there and wait till you are gone anyway"...
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or won't try anything and sit tight.. "you've got your CVs all the way there ? Well just come at me and bomb my precious tfs under my fighter LBA umbrella... I'll just stay there and wait till you are gone anyway"...

Well, if i can grab some transports full of troops, i won't wait! Only 30 fighters are present at Araore at the moment... i could also use my own LBA (i have Making and Tarawa well in range, and keep the KB as reserve.
I'm also thinking of using a fast SAG TF...

If he simply sits tight...well, the better: more time gained for Japan to reinforce its perimeter. I'm beginning to consider every day gained as a blessing
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When you know before the turn about the situation (which many times you do not know ahead of time, of course) then you can set the TB to use bombs and have them glide bomb.

Well, yes, that's true, but hasn't glide bombing been nerfed in one of the recent betas cause it was too effective?

However you obviously need crack pilots (70 NavT and 70 NavB) to do that...and as Japan, a part from the KB pilots, i seldom have this option unfortunately[;)]
No IIRC, they nixed high-level glide bombing. There were cases of TB glide bombing from 18,000 feet and doing spectacularly well. AFAIK it still works at low level, say the 5,000 feet that is often typical for TB. One of these days I will cobble together an altitude-mission profile-plane type reference table.
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When you know before the turn about the situation (which many times you do not know ahead of time, of course) then you can set the TB to use bombs and have them glide bomb.

Well, yes, that's true, but hasn't glide bombing been nerfed in one of the recent betas cause it was too effective?

However you obviously need crack pilots (70 NavT and 70 NavB) to do that...and as Japan, a part from the KB pilots, i seldom have this option unfortunately[;)]
No IIRC, they nixed high-level glide bombing. There were cases of TB glide bombing from 18,000 feet and doing spectacularly well. AFAIK it still works at low level, say the 5,000 feet that is often typical for TB. One of these days I will cobble together an altitude-mission profile-plane type reference table.
Such at table exists in the War Room FAQ posting. However, since this is a different scenario I am not sure if the effectiveness TB using bombs at lower level is the same as stock. I almost always use bombs with the Devastators in stock because they get hits that work, as opposed to rare torp hits that don't work anyway. It conserves the carriers' torps for attacks on BBs, which shrug off bombs.
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Mar 18, 1943
 
There u go. QBall suddenly moved 110 fighters at Araroe and it's confirmed that warships (indicated as CLs but i think they may be bigger)  are based at Canton.
 
My CVs are moving to Kusiae and more zeros have been moved to Tarawa. We're almost ready. Let's see who gets there first.
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Mar 19, 1943
 
Ok, here's my hypotesis: Brad is ready to attack on 3 different vectors, very far away from each other.
 
He's showing me his forces for the Tabiutea vector, but he's also loading troops at Townsville (fast transport) for a quick mission against Rossell Island (or something nearby). His real advance may be from Port Hedland to somehwere south of Sosarbaja. Maybe Denpassar? Something like that.... 230 4Es at Port Hedland may mean only he's wanting to plaster my garrison before the real landing. There's no other reason for having 230 bombers at Port Hedland.
 
So what to do with my CVs?... not an easy chioce
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KBs' role now is to try to kill the allied CVs so as to cripple future landings. Expecting to use them to stop all the landings is not feasible and your defences and LBA should be able to make him pay for any he tries. Hold KB in reserve until you get a sniff of his CVs.
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Mar 20, 1943... nothing moved today. No new indicators of warning...
 
The only news (bad) of the day is that the 4Es paid visit again against Boela, destroying 20 Mavis-Ls on the ground... i hate to lose those 4Es transport planes (which are the most usefull planes in our rooster!!!), also because one of those monsters costs a lot in terms of HI!!!
 
Well, a part of that, the only other news is that he started reconning Lunga....mmmmm.....[8|]
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KBs' role now is to try to kill the allied CVs so as to cripple future landings. Expecting to use them to stop all the landings is not feasible and your defences and LBA should be able to make him pay for any he tries. Hold KB in reserve until you get a sniff of his CVs.


mmmm i bet his CVs will be in reserve untill may at least... he needs to repair their damages and, above all, he needs to get enough Hellcats (they start arriving, 130 monthly, in April 43). So if he does something now, he will be doing only with a limited number of CVs or some CVEs...that's why my first bet goes for Tabiutea, where he can land under the LBA umbrella from Araroe
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But from Port Hedland, an assault on Christmas Island [IO] or Cocos Island would likely have British CV support? His fighters don't have the range to cover from Oz.
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But from Port Hedland, an assault on Christmas Island [IO] or Cocos Island would likely have British CV support? His fighters don't have the range to cover from Oz.

Well, Cocos is already in his hands... but yes, you are right. he may come also with a limited number of CVs....
Not an easy landing at Cocos for him anyway. I should be able to detect him pretty in advance. My subs are already patrolling those waters.

let's see!
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Mar 21, 1943
 
The 4Es arrive again over Boela and destroy more Mavis-Ls and Helens on the ground. Was a mistake on my part not to base at Boela any AA unit...but i only have few of them and it's not easy to chose where to base them.
 
It came to my mind another option for those 200 bombers at Port Hedland... what if they are there ready to be transfered, via Cocos Island, to India? What if he's planning a shift for his bombing campaign? I must keep on looking and see if i see changes in the overall numbers....
 
Something is moving west of Canton Is. Yet i haven't spotted any CV or CVE there... what i've spotted this turn is subs! plenty of subs suddenly appeared around Tarawa, clearly waiting for my naval reaction.
Everything is ready now. The KB is stationing at Kusiae, unspotted, waiting for him to come up, while my LBA from Tarawa and Makin is ready to strike anything comes north of Araroe.
 
a CVE (or what seems to be so) has been spotted near Perth, while he's heavily reconning Sosarbaja, Lunga and Tulagi
 
In the Kuriles started to appear Catalinas on naval search missions. I'm downloading a strong garrison at Onnekotan Jiima in these days. Now i have 350 AVs at Paramushiro, 360 at Onnekotan and more 450 at Shimushiri. The 51st Air Flottilla is based at Shimishiri Jiima, with 3 fighters training sentais and several more training naval bomber groups. My intention is to divide a G3M3 Nell sentai into 3 chutais and to move one of them up there to help the 9 Emilies that are actually performing search duties.
 
In China i'm trying to shrink the chinese perimeter around Chungking, in order to get a certain degree of safety before moving out my tank divisions. The tank regiments are already marching towards the southern ports in order to be shipped to the different locations (Mariannas, Southern DEI, CENTPAC etc).
Now the eastern, western and northern approaches to Chungking are closed and Brad can only move south his respawning units.
 
R&D:
The last J2M3 R&D factory is repaired and the plane is getting accelerated by 6 points daily! not bad.
The Ki-84a is moving along too and should be available by the end of summer 1943
Frances will become available in few days (April 1943).
 
 
Economy:
Supply levels are stable...but they never grow...[:(] producing 26k supply points daily is simply not enough.
Fuel is rising but very slowly
HI is going fine, with 1,3 millions stockpiled
95k Armament points in the pool and 23k Veh points. I'm producing less than half the capacity of these industries and they keep on rising nonetheless. Good.
The only real problem remains the levels of supplies
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This is the new perimeter we're trying to create in Central China.

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Mar 22-23 1943
 
The bombers moved away from Port Hedland... haven't found yet where...[&:][:-][:-][:-]
 
The enemy SCTF remains at Canton Is doing nothing. 110 fighters are now based at Araroe.
 
Here's where the "good" Brad's recon planes (F-4s, recon liberators and F3F-P) are doing their job today:
 
Christmas I.O.
Lunga-Tulagi-Russell Is.
Onnekotan Jiima (Kuriles)
Palembang
Roti-Dili (Timor)
Dabo (near Taberfane)
Rabaul
 
All these bases got the dreaded 9/10 D/L today
 
The quiet before the storm...
 
 
In 20 days we'll have two brand new Carriers!!!![&o]
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GJ - I sort of lost track. Are you definitely refraining from assaulting Chungking by HR?
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I would say that right now and for the next 2 months for sure, he is not in a position to assault you decisively anywhere. If I were him I would try a couple of coups de main but mainly to drive you crazy by feints and counterfeints to try to at least burn some fuel, fall in a couple of CAP traps and be out of position for when the hammer starts to fall for real in 3 months +.

Thus I would humbly recommend staying as put as possible.. If you get enough info about an operation and really believe it's going to happen well move your stuff around, but moving 100s of planes and big ships around is what he would want you to do.

As Napoleon more or less said, marches and countermarches demoralize an army way more than actual battle and are the prime source of defeat.
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GJ - I sort of lost track. Are you definitely refraining from assaulting Chungking by HR?

No, Brad said he doesn't need any HR. So it's up to me. I'm not that sure conquering chungking is what i want... If i manage to secure the perimeter whoch is shown in the above map, it may be ok for me. It's already almost mid 1943 and my time is running up...i need those divisions to get out of china ASAP. T take chungking will probably cost me a lot in terms of supplies, men and, above all, time.... Do i really need it? No, i guess not. I need to secure Sumatra and the DEI, the mariannas and the PI...that's what i really need.

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I would say that right now and for the next 2 months for sure, he is not in a position to assault you decisively anywhere. If I were him I would try a couple of coups de main but mainly to drive you crazy by feints and counterfeints to try to at least burn some fuel, fall in a couple of CAP traps and be out of position for when the hammer starts to fall for real in 3 months +.

Thus I would humbly recommend staying as put as possible.. If you get enough info about an operation and really believe it's going to happen well move your stuff around, but moving 100s of planes and big ships around is what he would want you to do.

As Napoleon more or less said, marches and countermarches demoralize an army way more than actual battle and are the prime source of defeat.

Very wise. As always mate. Re-reading my last 2 days posts i gotta say that i kinda went paranoid.... You're right. I need to remain cool and not to overreact to every small morning erection[:D]
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