Hairy Asian Experiences - GreyJoy (J) vs. Q-Ball (A)

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: witpqs

GJ - I sort of lost track. Are you definitely refraining from assaulting Chungking by HR?

No, Brad said he doesn't need any HR. So it's up to me. I'm not that sure conquering chungking is what i want... If i manage to secure the perimeter whoch is shown in the above map, it may be ok for me. It's already almost mid 1943 and my time is running up...i need those divisions to get out of china ASAP. T take chungking will probably cost me a lot in terms of supplies, men and, above all, time.... Do i really need it? No, i guess not. I need to secure Sumatra and the DEI, the mariannas and the PI...that's what i really need.

D u think i' wrong?

I agree. The key factor is the time and the opportunity cost imposed by keeping units there if they are really better spent elsewhere. If that were not a factor, then denying China any re-spawned units and putting them in an even deeper hole would be good. But not at the expense of making the Allies' job elsewhere easier. The hole that you have put the Chinese front in is plenty deep already.

[GreyJoy]

Mar 24 1943
 
Ok, Brad's finally on the move south of Tabiutea.
A TF (AM, TK, AK, AP) composed of 7 ships is spotted moving from Canton to Araroe. Yet no CVs or CVEs...just those CLs that remain still at Canton.
My subs are on the move. Their task will be to track down the enemy movements and see if something is coming behind those transports (so to say if it's a trap or not). My LBA is ready. We won't strike untill we have a confirmation of enemy's intentions.
The KB is refueling at Kusiae.
My calculations say that the enemy landing could take place in 2 days at minimum. The idea is to strike first with the LBA and use the CVs only the following day, pursuing the stragglers.
But, above all, i need to know where are his CVs...
 
A strong CD unit is unloading at Guam. Now both Guam and Saipan have their own costal guns[:D].
 
We keep on defeating the chinese on the southern part of the perimeter. Unfortunately for them (but also for our timings), with Chungking sieged, they have nowhere to retreat so they stand and die till the last man...which is sweet but makes me lose a lot more time.
However i do think my 3 tank divisions should be available within the next 2 weeks for being shipped out of China once for all.
 
Loading in these days a 700k fuel convoy at Singapore[8D]

[GreyJoy]

Mar 25, 43

Ok, some important news.

First of all: Seems that from Canton Is. only a small enemy force is committed...an old Omaha Class CL and 4 DDs....
South of Araroe 6 ships are spotted and confirmed. xAPs and xAKs with some AMs.... [&:]...another feint?

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Sub attack near Canton Island at 152,143

Japanese Ships
SS I-29, hits 5

Allied Ships
CL Richmond
DD Kalk
DD Gillespie
DD Flusser
DD Meade



Then in Burma: we were right, Brad is getting ready for a massive air campaign! 270 enemy fighters spotted at Dimampur, along with 150 bombers!!!! Man, that is scary!


Then near PM...several TFs left Cairns...moving northeast... Terapo? PM? another feint?

Lots of noise from Perth....

No more noise from Pago Pago....

Brad's driving me crazy[:o]

More units destroyed in China...we're getting there

[GreyJoy]

Mar 26, 27 1943
 
Nada. Or it was another feint in CENTPAC, or it was just a strange re-supplying mission of Araroe. There's only a little transport TF moving up and down from Araroe, covered by 110 fighters. Not a single bomber is present at Araroe and not a single recon mission has been made by Brad to Tarawa or Makin (and he knows i have an air HQ there). The Richmond TF is stationing 7 hexes south of Araore...still....[&:].
Intensive naval search missions with emilies, Nells and Mavis reported nothing more south of Araroe... only subs lurking around Tarawa...waiting for my KB maybe?
 
Bombers appeared again at Port Hedland. Beside some heavy recon over Timor (Roti especially), Brad isn't doing much in the southern DEI. All his best warships seems to be disappeared.
 
Those fighters and bombers in Assam (Dimampur) remain there. Not a single recon air mission made by the allies in Burma since Dec 1942....[X(][:-].
 
Sent more Nells on search mission at Padang (Western Sumatra) and more in the Kuriles and CENTPAC (towards Johnston Is)... i really don't like this quiet
 
Lots of recon missions in the lower Solomons... Brad seems to be really interested in Russell Island lately
 
The KB remains at Kusiae Is, unspotted...waiting for something to happen

[GreyJoy]

In China we destroyed 300 more squads today. But it's not enough...not fast enough. Tomorrow we'll attack against 3 enemy corps, hoping to force them to surrender so that we can start to move out our Tanks.

3 regiments are, anyway, on their way for Shangaii, where they will be loaded and sent to Benkoleng, Padang and Marcus Is.

The 90th Rgt (an elite unit from Manchuria) is prepping for Ponape. Will have to wait to get some more PPs....really short on them lately.

Brad has built Truskott, the dot base we mentioned few days ago in northern oz. Now he has lots of big bases right in front of Timor. I have barely 350 fighters for the defence of Timor...which is not enough as you may understand...but i just don't have enough formations to cover the whole perimeter

Jaluit an Miri, in CENTPAC, recently got a SNLF unit each, and Roi Namur too got reinforced.

Wake is getting some more suppies in these days. With 20,000 supplies and 163 crack AVs and 5 forts, the base is safe enough imho.

Now i'm extracting some valuable constr units from PM and sending them to Kusiae and Ponape. Wanna be ready, when The Marshalls will fall, with a good defensive arch around Truk (Rabaul/Biuganville - Kusiae/Ponape - Wake/Marcus).

Despite his heavy reconning lately, i'm not worried about the Kuriles. I have based my defences on the same assumptions that led my decision to invade there against Rader. I'm only defending Paramushiro, Onnekotan, Shimushiri, Etorofu and Bihoro, thus leaving some empty bases in the middle. Paramushiro now has 360 AVs, Onnekotan 400 AVs, Shimishiri 500 AVs and Bihoro 400 AVs, with forts everywhere, Tanks, AA units and base forces. The air defence is provided by an Air HQ at Shimushiri where all my training groups are based (some 54 fighters and 200 bombers). Etorofu is my main port in the area, with an AKE, an AS, an AD and an AG. A flottilla of old DDs, along with an upgraded cruiser, remains patrolling this sector.

Places were i really need to reinforce my defences are Sumatra (FIRST), the islands between Timor and Java (SECOND), Java (Third) and Thailand (FOURTH).

[veji1]

Don't get all stressed up. Right now and for the next 2 months he can't and won't do much... he could start a bombing campaign to attrit you somewhere but who cares... If he starts plastering Timor, good on him... What is important is that when he comes you have enough AFs and Planes nearby to sink him when he comes.. Till then just breathe, reinforce, keep reconning and having your eyes wide open but don't overreact.

[ny59giants]

The B-24 recon model is why you cannot hide KB anymore. Look at her ranges. [X(]

[MateDow]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The B-24 recon model is why you cannot hide KB anymore. Look at her ranges. [X(]

I have been under the impression that anything over 12 hexes for naval search was a waste. Is that not true?

I have used these to scout anchorages like Truk, but not for routine recon.

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: MateDow

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The B-24 recon model is why you cannot hide KB anymore. Look at her ranges. [X(]

I have been under the impression that anything over 12 hexes for naval search was a waste. Is that not true?

I have used these to scout anchorages like Truk, but not for routine recon.

I've had the G3M3 Nell not only find ships but try to strike at up to 20 hexes, but it's rare. Over 12 hexes you'll see a lot less, but the KB is a pretty big signature.

In this case I think recon saw the KB at Truk, so naval search wasn't involved if i understand correctly GJ's report.

[GreyJoy]

Yup, my KB was spotted at Truk during a recon flight of those monsters. On nav search mission they do nothing impressive. I've tried to use them in that role and they are useless... Also naval search missions are much more tiresome than recon missions and you end up losing too many of them.

Game will be on hold till sunday. I'm going skiing while Brad needs to wirk a lot.

We reached mar 29 1943 in the meanwhile... Seems that there won't be any invasion of Tabiutea. The enemy transport TF is retiring to Canton while more subs are spotted near Tarawa...defenetly a sub trap for my KB[:-]

I'll linger there few more days then i'll move back to Truk and start sending CVs back to Tokyo for their april upgrades. Every month a CV and a CVL will be sent back, along with some DDs....tomorrow we'll have 17 DDs and 3 CLs coming out of the yards after their 1/43 upgrades...

4es, heavily escorted attacked Babo, unmolested. 320 fighters spotted at Dimampur[8|]. I better start producing some more Tojos....

In china another corp is shattered....but things are proceeding too slowly.

120k supplies are reaching Ambon and kendari, along with some 220k fuel
[8D]

The UBER convoy with 740k fuel is ready at Singa to be shipped to Japan. 2 CVEs will provide close ASW support, along with 20 Es and 40 PBs[&o][&o][&o]

[&o]

Ki 84a will be accelerated to 12/43 in 2 days[8D]

[BBfanboy]

Don't the Allies get airborne radar for their patrol aircraft sometime in 1943? That would greatly increase odds that they detect something on Nav Search.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Don't the Allies get airborne radar for their patrol aircraft sometime in 1943? That would greatly increase odds that they detect something on Nav Search.

Some aircraft have it much sooner.

[GreyJoy]

Ok, i skiied all day. I drunk 3 white wines, 4 reds, 2 schnapps and 3 rums... Now i'm conpletely drunk. There's a dentist in the hotel. 35 old. Not bad. Should i brush my teeth and go charging? Should i read the cribtop's adventures in NW oz? .... Sorry texan mate, i go charging...like a bull

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Ok, i skiied all day. I drunk 3 white wines, 4 reds, 2 schnapps and 3 rums... Now i'm conpletely drunk. There's a dentist in the hotel. 35 old. Not bad. Should i brush my teeth and go charging? Should i read the cribtop's adventures in NW oz? .... Sorry texan mate, i go charging...like a bull

Some guys will do anything for free dental care ... even a midnight flossing! [:D]

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

Ok, i skiied all day. I drunk 3 white wines, 4 reds, 2 schnapps and 3 rums... Now i'm conpletely drunk. There's a dentist in the hotel. 35 old. Not bad. Should i brush my teeth and go charging? Should i read the cribtop's adventures in NW oz? .... Sorry texan mate, i go charging...like a bull

Atta boy! Go get em. [:D]

[ny59giants]

In the US Navy, we didn't call it "R & R," but rather "I & I."
Intoxication & Intercourse. [:D]

[Cribtop]

GJ, as proud as I am of my AAR, if you picked it over going charging, I'd be very disappointed!

PS - my wife saw your post, and even SHE said to go charging. So there you go, mate, brush and floss and make your, err, torpedo run! [:D]

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Cribtop

GJ, as proud as I am of my AAR, if you picked it over going charging, I'd be very disappointed!

PS - my wife saw your post, and even SHE said to go charging. So there you go, mate, brush and floss and make your, err, torpedo run! [:D]

[:D][:D][:D]

[crsutton]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: MateDow

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

The B-24 recon model is why you cannot hide KB anymore. Look at her ranges. [X(]

I have been under the impression that anything over 12 hexes for naval search was a waste. Is that not true?

I have used these to scout anchorages like Truk, but not for routine recon.

I've had the G3M3 Nell not only find ships but try to strike at up to 20 hexes, but it's rare. Over 12 hexes you'll see a lot less, but the KB is a pretty big signature.

In this case I think recon saw the KB at Truk, so naval search wasn't involved if i understand correctly GJ's report.

The Allied eventually get a camera equipped superfort. It can pretty much recon anything on the map. Any camera equipped aircraft will do just fine for recon. That is the key. Allies actually get a lot of fighter bombers that are camera equipped as well. These come in squadrons of 16 and can be broken down into three sub units. But is does not matter. P39, P40, P51, Hurricane, spitfire, mosquito all have a version that come with cameras. Except for the low range of some, they are great recon planes and I don't waste them as fighters. You got to train up a lot of recon pilots though. By mid 44 the Allies have recon up the ying yang..

[BBfanboy]

Recon is great if KB is in port, but I think the discussion drifted toward how to keep tabs on it when it is at sea. GJ doesn't seem to think the B-24 recon version helps much with that. Personally, I think being shot down by carrier based fighters far out at sea would be a huge tip-off!