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Probably precious few. Which is why foreign voices on the subject are (and have been) meaningless to me. Same with political discussions in general. Europeans assume that they are more knowledgeable about the inner workings of American history and politics than they really are.
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Some Europeans Mr C - you will notice I have not ventured [light-heartedness aside] into this essentially American discussion.

So, are you considering yourself a European today, herr Warspite1, or merely a foreigner? [;)]
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Geographically we are Europeans - I cannot deny that. Politically we are nothing of the sort, well except those that have no concept of what way is up [;)]
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Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.
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Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.
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Sensible policies for a happier America - like it Mr C [:)]
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Geographically we are Europeans - I cannot deny that. Politically we are nothing of the sort, well except those that have no concept of what way is up

But the problem is, just like in the U.S., there are way too many of those people.
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Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.
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Sensible policies for a happier America - like it Mr C [:)]

You didn't even ask what my FIRST executive order would be? [;)]
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Geographically we are Europeans - I cannot deny that. Politically we are nothing of the sort, well except those that have no concept of what way is up

But the problem is, just like in the U.S., there are way too many of those people.
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Its not so much how many there are - they are very much the minority - its the fact that they have got themselves in a position of unelected power [:@]

Whichever way you slice it, we in Britain were constantly and consistently lied to, by politicians of all parties, about what we were signing up to, what it meant and what the end game was.....
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Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.
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Sensible policies for a happier America - like it Mr C [:)]

You didn't even ask what my FIRST executive order would be? [;)]
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Er....free twiglet dispensers on all USN vessels?
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Well, if I were President, wanna know my executive order number 2? All Wyomingers-with a first name first letter of 'p' last letter 'i' against the wall. Nothing personal.
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Sensible policies for a happier America - like it Mr C [:)]

You didn't even ask what my FIRST executive order would be? [;)]

Oh hell, ok. What is your FIRST executive order?
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I think the second amendment is anathema to many Europeans in particular-of all our Bill of Rights. It's just a foreign concept to many of them that this country can be awash in guns and that's the way we likes it.

If you think about American history (vis a vis the Revolutionary War), the development of the American West and the independence movement in general, it makes perfect sense. But you've got to understand our history, the reasons for the amendment and why it's still very much relevant in today's society. Hard for most outsiders to fathom, I'd venture.
It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world. an empire with a strong professional army and with the largest navy in the world.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

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I think the second amendment is anathema to many Europeans in particular-of all our Bill of Rights. It's just a foreign concept to many of them that this country can be awash in guns and that's the way we likes it.

If you think about American history (vis a vis the Revolutionary War), the development of the American West and the independence movement in general, it makes perfect sense. But you've got to understand our history, the reasons for the amendment and why it's still very much relevant in today's society. Hard for most outsiders to fathom, I'd venture.
It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

"I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast."- W.T. Sherman
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I think the second amendment is anathema to many Europeans in particular-of all our Bill of Rights. It's just a foreign concept to many of them that this country can be awash in guns and that's the way we likes it.

If you think about American history (vis a vis the Revolutionary War), the development of the American West and the independence movement in general, it makes perfect sense. But you've got to understand our history, the reasons for the amendment and why it's still very much relevant in today's society. Hard for most outsiders to fathom, I'd venture.
It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

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I beg to differ. Was it that remarkable? Britain was a billion miles away, with a ridiculously small army at the best of times, the colonists were not alone - the French, Dutch, Spanish.....

Not to denigrate what the US has done since of course, but the actual War of Independence was not that remarkable a victory given the circumstances.
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Excellent analysis of President Obama's executive orders found in this link:

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It is the fact that so much of this history of the War Where You Told Britain To Shove Off and the Conquista
of the American West is a manufactured legend that makes it hard to fathom. Rather like the Americans are
a primitive tribe who produce and worship their own legends for their own purposes. Follow the money.

The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

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I beg to differ. Was it that remarkable? Britain was a billion miles away, with a ridiculously small army at the best of times, the colonists were not alone - the French, Dutch, Spanish.....

Not to denigrate what the US has done since of course, but the actual War of Independence was not that remarkable a victory given the circumstances.

Weak as water.
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The American War for Independence was remarkable for a number of reasons:
*** it was the first time that a colony was able to successfully overthrow its colonial master
*** a small non-professional army, and tiny navy was able to outlast the strongest empire in the world, with the largest navy.
*** it then managed to form (with some difficulty) a government that has lasted now for more than 200 years.

warspite1

I beg to differ. Was it that remarkable? Britain was a billion miles away, with a ridiculously small army at the best of times, the colonists were not alone - the French, Dutch, Spanish.....

Not to denigrate what the US has done since of course, but the actual War of Independence was not that remarkable a victory given the circumstances.

Weak as water.
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Eh?
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Eh?

Huh?
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Eh?

Huh?
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Que?
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Eh?

Huh?
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Que?

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Huh?
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Que?

Ya ne ponimayu
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Whum sploon tribby knockoes (hahahaha [:)])
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Ya ne ponimayu
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What?
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