NEAR EAST AFLAME

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Yes, I've been following this closely.
Here's a good read if you're interested:
http://www.juancole.com/2014/01/iraqs-sunni-civil.html

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If in fact the statement was purely a fantasy and had no political commentary intent. Then I apologize.
But perhaps it would be possible to refer to the US President as just that the US President.
We suffer everyday a continual barrage of anti Obama comments on all US forums and public sites whatever the topic it will be Obama's fault.
I am now on a hair trigger regards such comments.

But you weren't on a hair trigger when GB was president right ? Or were you ? TBH I felt the same way back then.
It doesn't bother me now. Right or wrong the administrations policies now get stuck on whose running the show
at the time, regardless of whether they are simply a continuation or not.




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ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

ORIGINAL: ironduke1955

If in fact the statement was purely a fantasy and had no political commentary intent. Then I apologize.
But perhaps it would be possible to refer to the US President as just that the US President.
We suffer everyday a continual barrage of anti Obama comments on all US forums and public sites whatever the topic it will be Obama's fault.
I am now on a hair trigger regards such comments.

But you weren't on a hair trigger when GB was president right ? Or were you ? TBH I felt the same way back then.
It doesn't bother me now. Right or wrong the administrations policies now get stuck on whose running the show
at the time, regardless of whether they are simply a continuation or not.





He called me hairtiggered I replied Pot meet kettle.
Favoritism is alive and well here.
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Veni
read the article and watched the news video. Very interesting indeed, thanks for the information. any thoughts on how to implement any of this


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Lion of Judah has cleared up his intent several days ago. So follow your own advice and No Politics, or when you say no Politics are you unable to take your own advice. And stop whistling Dixie over bush nobody's buying.
Are we like late Rome, infatuated with past glories, ruled by a complacent, greedy elite, and hopelessly powerless to respond to changing conditions?

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ORIGINAL: Twotribes

ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

ORIGINAL: ironduke1955

If in fact the statement was purely a fantasy and had no political commentary intent. Then I apologize.
But perhaps it would be possible to refer to the US President as just that the US President.
We suffer everyday a continual barrage of anti Obama comments on all US forums and public sites whatever the topic it will be Obama's fault.
I am now on a hair trigger regards such comments.

But you weren't on a hair trigger when GB was president right ? Or were you ? TBH I felt the same way back then.
It doesn't bother me now. Right or wrong the administrations policies now get stuck on whose running the show
at the time, regardless of whether they are simply a continuation or not.





He called me hairtiggered I replied Pot meet kettle.


I agree with you.

History began July 4th, 1776. Anything before that was a mistake.

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If I was a "good" player, I would like to enter into this scenario in a multiplayer game! It looks very good. I have played the basic ATG mirrored vs AI game twice. First time I lost badly, and the 2nd time I won after a long slugfest (more like WW1 with static attrition). But the game ATG is excellent and this mod looks like it would be fun to play. Thanks for the screenshots!
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I guess it must take some time for a idea to sink into your obfuscated minds. But what part of no politics don't you understand.
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If I was a "good" player, I would like to enter into this scenario in a multiplayer game! It looks very good. I have played the basic ATG mirrored vs AI game twice. First time I lost badly, and the 2nd time I won after a long slugfest (more like WW1 with static attrition). But the game ATG is excellent and this mod looks like it would be fun to play. Thanks for the screenshots!

ATG can actualy feel a bit more like WWI sometimes depending upon the map. I think the change in concentric attack values along with potential tight restrictions on oil reducing the volume of armor and air needed for more mobil warfare can sometimes lend it a more "WWI-ish" feel....it's possible those changes might have gone a bit overboard. I suggest you try a game with the AT classic ruleset sometime and see what you think about the difference.
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i have added the Islamic Caliphate as stated earlier. the tank units they have represent Syrian tank units which have changed sides and now fighting for the islamists. they have 1 tank bltn, 9 infantry brigades with 30 tanks each and several infantry bltn's. 2 anti tank brigades. they cannot produce their own tanks as they don't have the research yet. they hold the northern part of Syria. the only items the ISIS can produce now are infantry types small arms,nothing more.
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If I was a "good" player, I would like to enter into this scenario in a multiplayer game! It looks very good. I have played the basic ATG mirrored vs AI game twice. First time I lost badly, and the 2nd time I won after a long slugfest (more like WW1 with static attrition). But the game ATG is excellent and this mod looks like it would be fun to play. Thanks for the screenshots!

ATG can actualy feel a bit more like WWI sometimes depending upon the map. I think the change in concentric attack values along with potential tight restrictions on oil reducing the volume of armor and air needed for more mobil warfare can sometimes lend it a more "WWI-ish" feel....it's possible those changes might have gone a bit overboard. I suggest you try a game with the AT classic ruleset sometime and see what you think about the difference.
ATG can actualy feel a bit more like WWI sometimes depending upon the map. I think the change in concentric attack values along with potential tight restrictions on oil reducing the volume of armor and air needed for more mobil warfare can sometimes lend it a more "WWI-ish" feel....it's possible those changes might have gone a bit overboard. I suggest you try a game with the AT classic ruleset sometime and see what you think about the difference.

Thanks G-Mel! Will give AT classic a try to see the difference. Do you know if the near east aflame mod is available for download? Did I miss the link or is it available on some other forum?
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The scenario is no where complete. Needs play testing, and events programmed ( which I will need help with) before this is ready.
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here is a screenshot of the new regime in northern Syria. " Caliphate" I have added a couple of Hezbollah brigades for Syria as well


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who ever wants to help play test this when the time comes just let me know, thanks
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who ever wants to help play test this when the time comes just let me know, thanks
I do! Umm, as long as my newbieness (is that a word?!!) doesn't bother you! I could take a minor player. Also, I have not PBEM'd this game yet, but would like to try. The screen shots are neat!
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no problem, will add your name to the play test list. Thanks
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have added more territory for Egypt. All of the Sinai and past Cairo

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Looks very good. Started a AT classic vs AI in mirror mode. I can tell the difference in being able to use air and armor without oil penalties. However I think ATG with factories and oil/ore limits more fun (and leader mod/ and AI enhanced)! If I could tweek the oil production or the amount consumed I could have a more fluid game. Does the Near East Aflame allow for air/armor to have more realistic movement/sorties?
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RE: NEAR EAST AFLAME

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Looks like a great MOD count me in to play.
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what type of movement sorties are you hoping for?
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