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- Jagdtiger14
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
I like to place my carrier planes on the worst CV's (best possible plane on worst possible CV) to reduce the likelihood my best CV(s) are targeted. Its tempting to kill a lesser CV to kill the pilot, which is a big deal. But in this case you have to ask yourself if you are playing for this turn, or longer term? Looks like you get to choose the X and one D. You could sink the Ark Royal, and still damage/abort another CV with a plane if you roll well. I cant remember the CW builds, but I think they get some good green CVP's this year.
If you sink the Ark Royal you keep the CW naval air arm at low quality for a long while. If you do not, there are some really nice 40/41 long range/high quality planes (the Fulmar's, and some very decent Swordfish).
If you sink the Ark Royal you keep the CW naval air arm at low quality for a long while. If you do not, there are some really nice 40/41 long range/high quality planes (the Fulmar's, and some very decent Swordfish).
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
My main goal is to sink/abort ships with planes so that I can sink them all during thus turn. Or force them to empty sea area.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
I agree with mr. Jagdtiger 14. Sinking the Ark Royal also gives the Royal Navy more problems with the draw of newly build CVP too, since they might draw CVP's which do not fit on the other carriers. If you get another choice, you should target the loaded CV to see if it aborts.
Peter
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
I lost my fighter. I don't want their weak fighters shoot my previous NAV's down. I think I fly next impulse Bf110 to box 2.
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- Jagdtiger14
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Even with the Axis choosing only 1X, my opinion remains the same.
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- Jagdtiger14
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
I always wait for my opponent tell me which CV's he lands his planes on before I let him know which CV(s) I'm targeting. You never know what someone might do. Now for certain they will not land a plane on the Ark Royal (although very unlikely Orm would have made that mistake anyway...but you never know...).
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Oops, I thought they land before AA fire.
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- Jagdtiger14
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
It doesn't matter...they have to inform you where they land before you decide your target(s). I'm relying on information I'm seeing in the AAR report, so maybe this info has been passed around by exchange of files? I didn't read anything about where planes have landed.
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Yes, it will be shown on AAR. Now I'm home and I have some time to look at situation. I think I will target X on Ark Royal. CVP in box 4 has air to air value 0. 2 factor CVP in is box 3 on CVL.
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
About building units: You might guess I have never tried to take Gibraltar before. Next time I know.
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
CV planes did not land before attack rolls and Ark Royal sinks. If I find next round I choose only box 4 to avoid facing 2 factor CVP and fly FW Condor as front bomber.
Edit: I use at least some points to reduce CW air to air factors.
Edit: I use at least some points to reduce CW air to air factors.
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- Jagdtiger14
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Oppsss...sorry for misleading on the CVP landings. Its been a while.
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- Jagdtiger14
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Doing great attrition to CW. Should be able to dominate both the West Med. and CSV soon.
I like how they were trying to lead you into attacking the zero box.
I like how they were trying to lead you into attacking the zero box.
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
I really failed with Gibraltar. I did not realize I should have MAR. And PARA.
If I use O-chit now, I have less than 10% chance to take Gibraltar. I think I need to put them OOS or wait for better weather.
Germany will send Bf110 to CSV and Italy will send NAV to East Med. If Malta is OOS, their ships cannot be reorganized during end of turn. We need to roll very well to get even D on that TRS in Malta.
Is it OK to send Italian CP to West Med to get resource from Sardinia?
If I use O-chit now, I have less than 10% chance to take Gibraltar. I think I need to put them OOS or wait for better weather.
Germany will send Bf110 to CSV and Italy will send NAV to East Med. If Malta is OOS, their ships cannot be reorganized during end of turn. We need to roll very well to get even D on that TRS in Malta.
Is it OK to send Italian CP to West Med to get resource from Sardinia?
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- Jagdtiger14
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
You haven't failed, just wasted time. Don't push a bad attack. Wait for good weather (M/A). Get air power down there and keep engaging them.
Now is the best time to send a cp there.
Now is the best time to send a cp there.
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
The para's were gambled and lost at Madrid. I don't know if they would have been rebuilt by now anyway. Not sure when the option to build the Mar unit comes into the German force pool. It's winter now. Build them and see if the opportunity to use them at the back end of '41 arises.
By all accounts a '42 Barbarossa is a valid strategy, so there is still time. Just need to hold off the Soviet DoW. In the mean time, I think the war of attrition around Gib is still favouring the Axis.
Taking Gib needs the ground strikes to work to give +3 (and then a good die roll). OOS would help. These conditions need to be in place before declaring the O-chit and that needs more attritional work on the Allied CP's so at the crucial time they don't have any left in reserve to deploy to CSV.
By all accounts a '42 Barbarossa is a valid strategy, so there is still time. Just need to hold off the Soviet DoW. In the mean time, I think the war of attrition around Gib is still favouring the Axis.
Taking Gib needs the ground strikes to work to give +3 (and then a good die roll). OOS would help. These conditions need to be in place before declaring the O-chit and that needs more attritional work on the Allied CP's so at the crucial time they don't have any left in reserve to deploy to CSV.
RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
I see only action in Spain. How are things in the eastern Med? Any chance of putting pressure on the CW there? The more problems for the British, the better it is.
Peter
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Not much is happening in eastern med, all our resources are in Gibraltar area.
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Looks like naval impulse in Europe. Remember to send CP to West Med for Sardinian resource.
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- Mayhemizer_slith
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out!
Plans from Berlin:
German chooses Naval action.
CP from Memel to Baltic Sea.
Submarine to Central Atlantic box 1.
Bismarc to North Atlantic box 1 (unless enemy intercepts and finds in Bay of Biscay, then stay there). Bismarc aborts to Cadiz.
3 ships from Cadiz to CSV box 4. Don't commit subs and choose box 0 only if possible.
I ask Italians to send:
CA to East Med box 3. If you sink that CP Malta is OOS and 6 ships cannot be reorganized.
CP to West Med escorted by BB and CA, maybe CA to 4 box so that you get a chance to sink that submarine.
Submarines shoud not come to CSV where 3 German ships are in box 4.
German chooses Naval action.
CP from Memel to Baltic Sea.
Submarine to Central Atlantic box 1.
Bismarc to North Atlantic box 1 (unless enemy intercepts and finds in Bay of Biscay, then stay there). Bismarc aborts to Cadiz.
3 ships from Cadiz to CSV box 4. Don't commit subs and choose box 0 only if possible.
I ask Italians to send:
CA to East Med box 3. If you sink that CP Malta is OOS and 6 ships cannot be reorganized.
CP to West Med escorted by BB and CA, maybe CA to 4 box so that you get a chance to sink that submarine.
Submarines shoud not come to CSV where 3 German ships are in box 4.
If your attack is going really well, it's an ambush.
-Murphy's war law
-Murphy's war law



