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I can tell you that you can look at the supplies required numbers for your units and divide that by 30, then round up to the nearest integer. That will give you a supply usage number per unit, per day.

So I went through the numbers. It looks like about 1850/day in supply usage for all units. That is adding a bit extra requirement in too.

Adding in groups flying CAP and bombing runs I'm sure it's another 500-800 depending on the day.

Without intense combat there should be some significant surpluses. I will have to be careful to keep a good amount of the surplus in the Southern areas in case of a rail cut. I'll be trying to max out al of those bases in supply soon. A few bases have high fort levels already, and won't need to build much if any more. I will just keep building to level 6 in most locations though.

No need to add "a bit extra" - I had large sample sizes made up of many days looking at individual units. The divide by 30, round up to integer, holds. E.g., required 315 = 11 supplies per day. Required 31 = 2 supplies per day. Etc.

You could add up your CAP and whatnot, and engineers building forts.

I'd say a surplus of 3700 per day before engineers wouldn't be unreasonable, although I wouldn't do much bombing. The Soviet bombing units are lackluster and the terrain is not favorable. Just enough to keep him honest, nothing more.

The "bit extra" is that I averaged similar units instead of adding every single one of them. So I erred on the extra side to make sure I wasn't undercounting.

I will bomb where I can hit industry. If in range too I think the bomber force can hit fields pretty hard with all of those 100kg bombs. We'll see how much emphasis he puts on the air forces in this area.

I'm also prepping RAF and NZ Hudsons and Blenheims to base in China and take out the HI/LI/resources where possible. He can't protect everything, and the AVG has been dominant there even stripped of its best pilots. So anything within 6 hexes of a size two airfield is in danger, or up to 11/14 hexes if it's not CAPed, and that is a lot of his industry. Usually I wouldn't risk the supply, but in this game I will.

I'll so be planning to hit Magwe hard once the Japanese decide to take it.

I counted up the destroyed oil in the DEI yesterday and it's around ~250 so far. [:)]
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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...
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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.
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Another reason to round up the usage numbers is that not all Soviet units have finished filling out their TOE, so there will be more mouths to feed, feet to boot, and butts to pant up!
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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.
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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.
I took this as meaning the fuel cost of flying the small bombload - sort of like the inefficiency of small ships vs big ships when hauling an equivalent amount of freight.
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[font="Times New Roman"]Jan 22, 1942[/font]
[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]SUBS: [/font] Still tracking the damaged ships from Balikpapan. Got to a transport, sinking xAK Argun Maru, but not the combat ships. Grrr. [:@]

Some of the Dutch O-subs start out with poor commanders, and it's nice to see one hit after changing them.

We also had a few opportunities against the BBs in the DEI and Soviets subs do some business between Honshu and Hokkaido, hitting three xAK!! [:)]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]USSR:[/font] The night bombing at Harbin destroys 2-3 Sallys and puts some damage on the fields. Nice. The old Soviet 4Es will keep it coming.

The big move of the day was sending the 202nd para brigade to Shikuka. I didn't think the unit registering movement from Toyohara could make it in time but it did. So instead of facing a base force and taking this important spot, we are thwarted by a big brigade, even though it was in strat mode. I'll have to try and extricate the paras now. Luckily this is a base within fighter range. [;)]

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]DEI: [/font] The Japanese send in 3 BB to bombard Singers. Again they escape subs, mines and CD guns to put a hit on the base. So odd the CD guns are playing no part in this at all. The bombardment doesn't do as much as I'd expected though, leaving fields with 17 damage and destroying only 4 planes on the ground. Lets now see how far he has to go to replenish, and if I can interdict the paths using subs.

I anticipation of this move I sen the P-38s to Java and swept Palembang, then sent the 4Es in behind them. It helped a lot that the two A6M groups from Palembang swept Singers this turn, finding only 6 buffalo on CAP. The results of the Palembang strike were good. Another 15 hits for something like 25-30 oil points off again. In addition about 10 Nates, Tojos and A6M2 were shaved off of the CAP of Palembang, and the damaged cruisers escaped Singers.

I used an uncaptured British base on Malaya, Utan Melintang, and sent in CAP and some aviation support and supply. The CAP was a bit slow to react here and Jeff had some of the Netties flying very high, so actually ALL ~40 got torpedo runs! [X(]

Only one hit, but it sank DD Craven. Too bad, but the cruisers should make it anyway. They'll flank to beyond Sabang and make for Colombo tomorrow. On the day the CAP did get to some of the Netties after their runs, and knocked down 10 unescorted Vals plus around a dozen Sallys trying to hit an airbase on Sumatra.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]PACIFIC: [/font] Trying to break out with some Soviet DDs into the Pacific. We'll see if they make it tomorrow.

[font="Microsoft Sans Serif"]CHINA: [/font] Got some hits on Canton HI, which is good. I'll take tomorrow off and recon the base to see what he does there.

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Sub attack near Jolo at 72,93

Japanese Ships
xAK Argun Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
CA Suzuya, heavy damage
CL Kiso, heavy damage
DD Shikinami, heavy damage
PB Nagata Maru
SC Ch 3
DMS W-16
xAK Hakusika Maru
xAK Kosin Maru #2
xAK Yamagiku Maru
DD Okikaze
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Nikkai Maru

Allied Ships
SS O23

Massive explosion on xAK Argun Maru
SS O23 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Argun Maru

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Night Air attack on Harbin , at 109,39

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
TB-3 x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-Ic Sally: 2 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x TB-3 bombing from 6000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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ASW attack near Jolo at 73,92

Japanese Ships
CA Suzuya, heavy damage
CL Kiso, heavy damage
DD Shikinami, heavy damage
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu
PB Shonan Maru #17
PB Nikkai Maru
SC Ch 3
DMS W-16
xAK Hakusika Maru
xAK Kosin Maru #2
xAK Yamagiku Maru
DD Okikaze
DD Ushio
DD Ariake
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
SS S-36

SS S-36 is sighted by escort
S-36 diving deep ....

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Night Naval bombardment of Singapore at 50,84

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 15 damaged
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-5 Catalina: 2 damaged
PBY-5 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
P-39D Airacobra: 10 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed on ground
LB-30 Liberator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu
BB Kirishima

Allied ground losses:
460 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)


Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 13

BB Fuso firing at Singapore
BB Mutsu firing at 9th Indian Division
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Kirishima
BB Kirishima firing at 9th Indian Division

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Submarine attack near Hakodate at 118,53

Japanese Ships
xAK Bengal Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS L-11

xAK Bengal Maru is sighted by SS L-11
SS L-11 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Bengal Maru

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Submarine attack near Hakodate at 118,53

Japanese Ships
xAK Kenzan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS L-8

xAK Kenzan Maru is sighted by SS L-8
SS L-8 launches 2 torpedoes at xAK Kenzan Maru


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Submarine attack near Hakodate at 118,53

Japanese Ships
xAK Uga Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS L-9

xAK Uga Maru is sighted by SS L-9
SS L-9 launches 4 torpedoes at xAK Uga Maru

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ASW attack near Jolo at 73,91

Japanese Ships
DD Ariake
CA Suzuya, heavy damage
CL Kiso, heavy damage
DD Shikinami, heavy damage
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu
PB Shonan Maru #17
SC Ch 3
DMS W-16
xAK Hakusika Maru
xAK Kurohime Maru
xAK Toyokawa Maru
DD Okikaze
DD Ushio
DD Yugure

Allied Ships
SS Cachalot

SS Cachalot launches 2 torpedoes at DD Ariake
DD Okikaze fails to find sub and abandons search

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Morning Air attack on Singapore , at 50,84

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 10 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 25000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.453 Sqn RAF with Buffalo I (0 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 25,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
Ki-27b Nate x 53
Ki-44 Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
P-38E Lightning x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 4 destroyed
Ki-44 Tojo: 1 destroyed


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-38E Lightning sweeping at 21000 feet *

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Morning Air attack on Tandjoengbalai , at 47,78

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 23

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 10 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Canton , at 77,59

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 36 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Allied aircraft
SB-III x 18

Allied aircraft losses
SB-III: 1 damaged

Heavy Industry hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB-III bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-27b Nate x 32
Ki-44 Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

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Morning Air attack on Tsitsihar , at 109,36

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 2

Allied aircraft
SB-2 x 25

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Light Industry hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x SB-2 bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1
Ki-27b Nate x 29
Ki-44 Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 5
B-17E Fortress x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 12 damaged

Oil hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 7000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Utan Melintang at 48,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 30,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 29
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 7
P-40E Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CA Houston
DD Craven, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CL Boise
DD Cassin
CL Achilles

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G3M2 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Utan Melintang at 48,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CA Northampton
CL Achilles

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Utan Melintang at 48,77

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 10

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Ground combat at Shikuka (126,43)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 1118 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 86

Defending force 10572 troops, 87 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 283

Allied adjusted assault: 42

Japanese adjusted defense: 66

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
168 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
60 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 8 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
202nd Airborne Bde /3

Defending units:
Karafuto Mixed Brigade
39th JAAF AF Bn
22nd Special Base Force /1
39th Const Co
71st JAAF AF Bn /1
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[font="Trebuchet MS"] Another decent day in the air. That is a lot of pilots lately lost for Japan. Not to mention a lot more experience gain for my guys.[/font]

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Well, keep in mind that while yes the number of bombs increases the likelihood of a hit, a 100kg bomb might not always cause a point of damage. I would guess that it would, but perhaps not.

And larger bombs sometimes cause multiple points of damage...

True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.

Right, but my point was that if the pee-wees don't do any damage the supply is a deadweight loss. I suspect they "can", but I don't know if they "will", against any level of forts.
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True, and then the supply cost of flying in lots of pee-wee bombs can't be discounted.

The supply cost is based on the bomber's load value, though. So 10x 100kg bombs on a bomber that has a load of 2000 is the same as a bomber with 4x 250kg bombs and also a load value of 2000.

Right, but my point was that if the pee-wees don't do any damage the supply is a deadweight loss. I suspect they "can", but I don't know if they "will", against any level of forts.

They'll damage fields and industry just fine irrespective of forts.
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May I suggest you change the thread name to "Beans, Bullets, Black Oil, and Borscht"?
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May I suggest you change the thread name to "Beans, Bullets, Black Oil, and Borscht"?

But who counts borscht?
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May I suggest you change the thread name to "Beans, Bullets, Black Oil, and Borscht"?

But who counts borscht?

Maybe Blini? [;)]
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The 23rd started well! Didn't hear sinking sounds, but might have missed the special echoing sound of a sub going down with the Wimbledon finals on!
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Sub vs Sub: SS KXV attacking SS I-164 at 49,85 - near Singapore

Japanese Ships
SS I-164, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXV

SS KXV launches 4 torpedoes at 4,000 yards
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Our subs in the Sulu Sea hunting the damaged cruisers come up empty, but there are many days left to track this game. [;)]

That TF ended near Zamboanga, and there are 15 subs nearby.
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In daylight the big show happens at Shikuka. The Soviets strike big and it pays off. Even the I-16 doesn't do too badly here, getting 2 A6M2 and a Nate for 4 lost I-16.

That is good because amazingly, he has off-loaded the mini-KB fighter groups here!! These are the best of the best.

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Morning Air attack on Shikuka , at 126,43

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-27b Nate x 12

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
I-16m24: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x I-16m24 sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
144th Sentai/A with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
144th Sentai/B with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
144th Sentai/C with Ki-27b Nate (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 9000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 7000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

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Long time since I started a new game, but the last one that I did had the penetration and effect values zeroed out for the Brit 15", 9.2" and 6" cd guns. Hope it's not the case for your game.
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Long time since I started a new game, but the last one that I did had the penetration and effect values zeroed out for the Brit 15", 9.2" and 6" cd guns. Hope it's not the case for your game.

Wow. I'll check that in the editor!! Thanks for the tip.
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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Nice to have an 80 bomber coordinated strike at this point in game for the Allies!!! I also like that the SB-2 tail gunners are doing their job! [&o]

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Morning Air attack on Shikuka , at 126,43

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-27b Nate x 2

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 36
SB-2 x 80

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed on ground
Ki-27b Nate: 2 damaged
Ki-27b Nate: 4 destroyed on ground
F1M2 Pete: 3 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
SB-2: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x SB-2 bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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A bunch of follow-on strikes hit the base hard and knocked out more planes on the ground.

That was about it other than this ground battle, where a few newly inserted units thwart the Japanese attempt to bypass the CD guns at Tarakan.

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Ground combat at Tarakan (67,91)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 5073 troops, 57 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 169

Defending force 5149 troops, 58 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 117

Japanese adjusted assault: 59

Allied adjusted defense: 202

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
638 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
139 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (1 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 8th SNLF
Sasebo 3rd SNLF
Yokosuka 4th SNLF

Defending units:
35th Avn Sup
I/43rd PS Inf Battalion
Makassar KNIL Cdo
VII KNIL Battalion
II Samarinda Cdo
I Samarinda Cdo /1
Tarakan Defenses
HQ TC Borneo
Tarakan MLD Base Force

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe (J)

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On the day about 15-18 A6M2, 10 Nates and 5-7 Petes were destroyed. I'd think Shikuka airfields are closed.

We were also able to extract the paras from Shikuka which are safely in Sovetskaya Gavan now. I'll prep them for Toyohara and see if a day of rest and some MIGs might do the job there. A lot of resources I could take away by getting that base, not to mention a very nice airfield if I could actually build it up and use it. Probably not, but it's a threat he'd have to answer.

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