Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Raptorx7_slith]

The SU-57 just got its official NATO reporting name: FELON.

https://theaviationist.com/2019/11/01/n ... be-better/

Obviously not a high priority.

[BDukes]

Hellos

Look like all AU Perry Frigates out of service. Have past post I thinks point out different retirements of blocks

https://www.janes.com/article/92189/ran ... ss-frigate

Thank!

[stilesw]

The SU-57 just got its official NATO reporting name: FELON.

Logged.

-WS

[LORDPrometheus]

ORIGINAL: SeaQueen

Commercial KDC-10 and KC-707 tanker.

The US Navy and Marine Corps supplements its tanker fleet with aircraft from Omega Refueling, a private military contractor. They also provide rent-a-tankers for nations all over the world. Might add some flavor to the database.

http://www.omegaairrefueling.com/

That's a neat one I had no idea any tankers were in private hands. Looks like Omega operates 2 KC-707 and 1 KDC-10. The former are ex RAF aircraft and the latter is a modification they did in house to a DC-10-40. They are all drogue only, not surprising given it's much safer for the tanker and less skill is needed by what are essentially commercial crews.

[stilesw]

Italy bought 8 mq 1c predator a in 2001
2 lost and 6 update at predator a+

Logged.

-WS

[TheOriginalOverlord]

Just a reminder of this thread:
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.a ... ey=�

on large caliber AA gun range...should also apply to the CWDB as wel...more so I'd bet...

[Mgellis]

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


I would like to put out a semi-serious request for the addition of a few "out there" speculative platforms. Basically, I'm hoping to see a few things that would give more creative scenario designers a little more to play with.

I know that many people would be horrified if you actually did this, but I suspect if you added mecha, flying saucers, and sea monsters to the database, you would double sales for CMO. [:)]

Okay, just for fun, I tried to work up a quasi-realistic sea monster. I'm sure there are a lot of things that would have to be fixed before this got into the database. This thing is BIG, one thousand tons, making it several times larger than the biggest blue whales that ever lived, but not Godzilla-sized (which would be about 10,000 or 20,000 tons). Here it is...I hope something like it makes it into the database someday...


Class: Biologic/Sea Monster
Service: None
Damage Points: 50
Standard Displacement: 1,000 tons
Full Displacement: 1,000 tons
Length: 60 m.
Max Depth: -5,000 m
Pier/Dock/Davit Size: None
Sensors: Mk 1 Eyeball, Generic Active/Passive Attack Sonar (Submarine, MF, Short Range)
Features: Non-Magnetic Hull, Snorkel
Propulsion: Monster, Static, 20 kts. (Creep: 2 kts, Cruise: 5 kts., Full: 10 kts., Flank: 20 kts.)
Mount: Monster Attack (Capacity: 1, Launch Interval: 1, Armor: None)
Magazine: Monster Attack (Capacity: 100, Reload Rate: 5, Armor: None)

I have no idea what the sonar cross sections, etc. should be. I envision it as an apex ambush predator, so at Creep it would be VERY quiet, but progressively louder at higher speeds, but still reasonably quiet unless it was using its sonar in active mode. The attack is generic—bite, claw, whatever. I made it a torpedo because that seems to be the best fit (and the sound effect is probably the best match for a massive underwater swipe or ram). Of course, there may be a much better way to do this. The reason for the capacity of 100 for attacks is that I assume after a while, if it doesn’t kill something, it gives up and goes away (if it gets hurt and has to run, it can go VERY deep, deep enough to hide from pretty much anything). However, this lets it do up to 200 dp, which will sink lots of boats, ships, etc. I imagine ships or subs might sink eventually due to flooding even if the attack does not sink them directly.

Weapon: Sea Monster Attack
Type: Torpedo
Damage: 2
Sub/Surface PoH: 95%
Range (Anti-Surf): 0.1 nm
Range (Anti-Sub): 0.1 nm
Kinematic Range: 0.1 nm
Valid Targets: Ships, Submarines
CEP (Surf): 5 m.
Altitude: -5000 to 0 ft. AGL

The image is by allwinlucious, published on Pixabay under the Pixabay license, so it is free for commercial use...here is the link: https://pixabay.com/users/allwinlucious-5527168/

[LORDPrometheus]

^ this. This right here^. This is why we need an in game database editor with custom units exported with the scenario files

[SeaQueen]

That's a neat one I had no idea any tankers were in private hands. Looks like Omega operates 2 KC-707 and 1 KDC-10. The former are ex RAF aircraft and the latter is a modification they did in house to a DC-10-40. They are all drogue only, not surprising given it's much safer for the tanker and less skill is needed by what are essentially commercial crews.

Yeah... I saw them for the first time out at Hickam AFB, several years ago. I'm supposed to head out there again tomorrow, and it made me think of them for some reason.

[LORDPrometheus]

Ok can't believe this one is missing.

Project 22800 Karakurt class Corvette:
Displacement: 800 tons
Length: 67m
Beam: 11m
Draft: 3.3m
Speed: 30 knots
Range: 2500 nmi

Armament: first 2 ships
1x 100mm A-190
2x AK-630M CIWS
2x4 UKSK cells for Kaliber or Oniks
2x 14.5mm Machine Guns

Armament: last 16 ships
1x 76.mm AK-176MA
1x Pantsir M
2x4 UKSK cells for Kaliber or Oniks
2x 14.5mm Machine Guns

18 planned
10 under construction
4 complete
2 in service
First commissioned December 17 2018

designed as a blue water Buyan alternative these Corvettes are meant to operate in rough seas and have a 15 day endurance for long patrols. They have no anti submarine warfare capability and are meant for anti shipping and land attack missions.
I could not find much on their sensor suite but based on the appearance of their radar I suspect it is similar if not identical to the Buyan-M.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... osiya.html

https://sputniknews.com/russia/20160807 ... -analysis/

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -navy.html

https://tass.com/defense/1036416

There are many other sources but I can't read Russian so this is what I have

[Scar79]

#3532 - Kh-47M2 Kinzhal [Penetrator]
#3533 - Kh-47M2 Kinzhal RV [Penetrator]
#3534 - Kh-47M2 Kinzhal RV [200kT Nuclear]
#3535 - Kh-47M2 Kinzhal [200kT Nuclear]

Range (anti-surf): 50 - 1200 nm
Range (anti-land): 50 - 1200 nm

For the sake of Truth and Objectivity, range needs to be decreased to ~700nm, because 2000km is a combat-application-range of the system "Carrier+Missile", i.e. Mig-31' supersonic range(which is ~700km)+ missile range = 2000km. This can be easily checked by the fact that declared range of Tu-33M3(M) + Kinzhal is around 3000km. Tu-22M3 combat radius at supersonic is ~1700km, which gives us the same 700nm of the missile range: 3000km - 1700km = 1300km(or ~700nm).

[NorthernFox]

Missiles for ROKAF

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/korea-aim-120c-advanced-medium-range-air-air-missile-amraam

This proposed sale will improve the ROK capability to meet current and future threats by increasing its stocks of medium range missiles for its F-15K, KF-16, and F-35 fleets for its national defense.

in the case of F-15K, Slam Eagle operate C-7 since 2011 (SIPRI)

New Facility
K2 Black Panther , armed with CN08 120mm cannon. Introduced in 1/7/2014 20mechdiv's 12th Armored Battalion
K21 IFV , Introduced in 2010

[LORDPrometheus]

Got a database correction here for ya.

USS Jimmy Carter has the same size numbers as the standard Seawolf class when it is actually 30m longer and has 2500 tons greater displacement. Given the drive systems are the same it is fair to say it should also be slightly slower maybe 30 knots instead of 3r but there would never be info available on that. It should also be a bit more visible to active sonar just due to being larger.

[stilesw]

Got a database correction here for ya.

Ryan,

References?

-WS

[Fido81]

Would you please consider adding the AGM-131A SRAM II, and the AGM-131B SRAM-T, to this database as hypothetical weapons?

SRAM II was meant to be the successor to the AGM-69 SRAM (Short Range Attack Missile). It seems to have been intended for the B-1B (and presumably also B-52 variants).
Links: http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-131.html (also mentions SRAM-T), https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/agm-131a.htm, https://fas.org/man/eprint/rwr/rwr-1.pdf (also mentions SRAM-T), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-131_SRAM_II (also mentions SRAM-T).

SRAM-T was meant to be a SRAM II variant that could be carried by dual-capable aircraft (sources linked to in this post indicate candidates included the F-15E and F-111, and seems to have made it all the way to flight test before it was cancelled (like the B-70 in CWDB).
Links: https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/agm-131b.htm

[Blast33]

The Airbus A330 MRTT (tanker) is in the database as: #4708 - Airbus A.330-200 MRTT [MFF] (NATO- 2019)
In total 8 have been ordered for use in support of Belgium, The Netherlands, Luxemburg, Norway and the Czech republic.

Out of the total of 8 aircraft currently on order, 5 will be based at Eindhoven AirBase (MOB) from 2020 onwars and 3 at Koln-Bonn Airbase (FOB).

On 19 December 2017, NATO partnered with Israel's Elbit Systems to provide J-Music DIRCM countermeasures systems to the fleet (Wikipedia)
Could the DIRCM be added to the DB3000 for the MRTT?

Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn6vEeJVO3g
https://www.edrmagazine.eu/pas-2019-air ... -a330-mrtt

This DIRCM system is also selected for the German A-400 Grizzly transport aircraft.
Le Bourget, 19 June 2019 – Airbus Defence and Space has been awarded a contract from the German Bundesamt für Ausrüstung, Informationstechnik und Nutzung der Bundeswehr (BAAINBw) to integrate and certify a J-MUSIC™ Directed Infrared Counter Measure (DIRCM) system inside the A400M Defensive Aids Sub-System (DASS) for the German Air Forces’ Airbus A400M aircraft.
Source:
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... -air-force.

Thanks for all your work updating it every time!

[ProdigyofMilitaryPride]

I don't know why my pictures couldn't appear when I submitted these entries...

Would a formatting like this help for at least the ships I've requested?

ARM Quetzalcoatl [D101] (ex-Vogelgesang, Gearing Class FRAM I, 1982-2002), ARM Netzahualcoyotl [D102] (ex-Steinaker, Gearing Class FRAM I, 1982-2014)
Weight: 3460 Tons (Full)
Length: 390ft. 6in.
Beam: 40ft. 10in.
Draft: 14ft. 4in.
Speed: 38.6 knots
Dimensions: 390'6" (OA) x 40' 10" x 14' 4" (Max)
Radar: SPS-37
Sonar: SQS-23
Range: 4500nm at 20 knots
Engines: 2-screw General Electric geared turbines, 60000 shp
Crew: 336
Weaponry: 6 x 5in. 38-caliber AA guns, 12 x 40mm AA, 11 x 20mm AA, 10 x 21 in. Torpedo Tubes (2x5) (Possibly Mk. 32)
Other Features: DASH Hangar/Flight Deck Aft

Sources:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Netza ... tl_(D-102)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Netza ... tl_(D-102)
https://web.archive.org/web/20080617140 ... guerra.htm
http://www.semar.gob.mx/galeria/buques/ ... lcoatl.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gearing-class_destroyer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Steinaker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Vogelgesang_(DD-862)
http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/863.htm
http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/862.htm
http://www.navsource.org/archives/05/helpers/fram.htm

ARM Cuauhtémoc [E01] (ex-Harrison, Fletcher class, 1970-1982), ARM Cuitláhuac [E02] (ex-John Rodgers, Fletcher class, 1970-2001)
Weight: 2,050 tons
Dimensions: 369 1/4 in. at waterline, 376 1/2 in. at overall length, 39 1/2 in. beam, 17 3/4 in. draft, keel to waterline
Range: 6500nm at 15 knots
Engines: Two geared turbines, 60000 shp, 2 Propellers, 35 knots
Radar: SC-1 or SC-2?
Sonar: SQS-23
Weaponry: 5 x 5 in. Guns, 10 x 40mm AA Guns, 7 x 20mm AA Guns, 10 x 21in. Torpedo Tubes, 6 depth charge launchers, 2 depth charge racks
Crew: 273

Sources:
http://abbot.us/fletcher/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_Rodgers_(DD-574)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harrison_(DD-573)
http://www.microworks.net/pacific/ships ... etcher.htm
http://www.steelnavy.com/FACTS.HTM
https://www.gyrodynehelicopters.com/fletcher_class.htm
https://books.google.com/books?id=8RNkK ... QS&f=false

For an overall view of the Mexican military around '96...
https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publi ... tudy_4.pdf



Quetzalcoatl



Netzahualcoyotl

So therefore, I'll try bring in some new ones.

Quetzalcoatl/Netzahualcoyotl (Source: Christopher D. Blachly, US Navy)


Cuauhtémoc


Cuitláhuac


And what's more, another link on information on the Fletcher-class ships assigned to Mexico!
http://fletcher.publicidadwebrush.info/

[TheOriginalOverlord]

Could we get CA 134 Des Moines #139 and #2590 brought over to the DB3000 from CWDB? These cruisers were in reserve until the early 1990s and were under consideration for being recommissioned.


PS please check the open parking storage..it looks like to me it has a 24 large aircraft open parking space.



Thanks!!

[LORDPrometheus]

Hey Wayne super duper low priority but kind of fun. So a buddy of mine is a Lancer mechanic at REDACTED and he told me something neat. Apparently the external pylons while disabled are still registered in the weapons computer and they keep the wring and old pylons in a warehouse. Basically if Sh** hit the fan the Lancers could be modified to have their external pylons again. Basically I would like to see a hypothetical unit where the lancer has the pylons and a correspondingly increased weapons load.

[stilesw]

Basically I would like to see a hypothetical unit where the lancer has the pylons and a correspondingly increased weapons load.

Ryan,

Thanks for the information. I've logged it for evaluation.

-Wayne