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[IslandInland]

Any upgrade as regards the software that runs these forums can only be for the better.

Just one example: the search function is a joke and has been for years.

Having said that we must have a GD forum if only for all the waifs and strays. Myself included.

[:D]

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Karri

ORIGINAL: Zap

I put two different points together, I guess. What I was saying is all improvements that are planned be it an improved search, access to threads, consolidation, and whatever else makes navigating here better I'm very much glad for the planned upgrade. When I spoke of recent developments concerning Family friendly discussion and implementation that's where uncertainty and loss of enthusiasm took over. Participation? I have a thread I started. its gone on for a while. But is it family friendly? Who will find it objectionable and lodge a complaint? So I questioned myself, do i share anymore? Risk bringing it up to the top of General Discussion area. Squash. I can empathize with Warspite1

76819 Registered users have made 4 912 252 posts in 1221 forums. There are currently 406980 topics.

General discussion holds 278 764 of those posts. Or about 6% of the total. How many of that 6% are banned topics? Who knows, but I am going to guess it's a very insignificant number.

Just remember, be careful what you post. Your post may be deleted and/or the thread locked even if it does not violate the rules.

[Karri]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Karri

ORIGINAL: Zap

I put two different points together, I guess. What I was saying is all improvements that are planned be it an improved search, access to threads, consolidation, and whatever else makes navigating here better I'm very much glad for the planned upgrade. When I spoke of recent developments concerning Family friendly discussion and implementation that's where uncertainty and loss of enthusiasm took over. Participation? I have a thread I started. its gone on for a while. But is it family friendly? Who will find it objectionable and lodge a complaint? So I questioned myself, do i share anymore? Risk bringing it up to the top of General Discussion area. Squash. I can empathize with Warspite1

76819 Registered users have made 4 912 252 posts in 1221 forums. There are currently 406980 topics.

General discussion holds 278 764 of those posts. Or about 6% of the total. How many of that 6% are banned topics? Who knows, but I am going to guess it's a very insignificant number.

Just remember, be careful what you post. Your post may be deleted and/or the thread locked even if it does not violate the rules.

Nothing I have ever posted here has been deleted or locked, and if it would be then so what?

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Karri

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: Karri





76819 Registered users have made 4 912 252 posts in 1221 forums. There are currently 406980 topics.

General discussion holds 278 764 of those posts. Or about 6% of the total. How many of that 6% are banned topics? Who knows, but I am going to guess it's a very insignificant number.

Just remember, be careful what you post. Your post may be deleted and/or the thread locked even if it does not violate the rules.

Nothing I have ever posted here has been deleted or locked, and if it would be then so what?

That was a general warning for everybody because someone might complain about something that does not violate the rules yet the post and/or thread may get locked. Even if no one complains about the thread in a post, the post may be deleted with no explanation nor warning while the thread may be locked with no explanation nor warning even if it does not violate the rules.

[Erik Rutins]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
That was a general warning for everybody because someone might complain about something that does not violate the rules yet the post and/or thread may get locked. Even if no one complains about the thread in a post, the post may be deleted with no explanation nor warning while the thread may be locked with no explanation nor warning even if it does not violate the rules.

Just to be clear, the way moderation is supposed to work here is that posts are never deleted. A thread may be locked, but the reason for locking it should be stated. I realize that did not happen in a recent instance, but hopefully it should work this way going forward.

Regards,

- Erik

[arvcran2]

I like giving the moderators the benefit of the doubt, assuming they are not bots, they are also not perfect. We all live and learn. We also like to belong. So when in Matrix forums ... [8D]

[RFalvo69]

Every time I see the title of this thread, I can’t help to think to…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEsUiQIyzd8

[operating]

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

Every time I see the title of this thread, I can’t help to think to…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEsUiQIyzd8

Listened to the song, could not make out the words, regardless the song had a nice cadence and seemed thoughtful. There was some 23,000 who liked it and for some reason 400 some odd that gave it a thumbs down, perhaps there was some meaning in the song I missed that others objected to. Many of the youtube comments were in a language other than English, although mostly positive. As far as I am concerned: There are times I choose purposely to sit back and be reflective and at moments such as those, songs such as above I would listen to.

[operating]

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

Every time I see the title of this thread, I can’t help to think to…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gEsUiQIyzd8

My reply in song to yours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI

[Zap]

Is there a lyrics that I can access. Your example was very hard to decipher the words.

[RFalvo69]

ORIGINAL: Zap

Is there a lyrics that I can access. Your example was very hard to decipher the words.

If you mean "This Love", of course my "association" is a just wordplay on the title. Here is a version with the lyrics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28sKo4Av0zI

[Karri]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
That was a general warning for everybody because someone might complain about something that does not violate the rules yet the post and/or thread may get locked. Even if no one complains about the thread in a post, the post may be deleted with no explanation nor warning while the thread may be locked with no explanation nor warning even if it does not violate the rules.

I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: Karri

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
That was a general warning for everybody because someone might complain about something that does not violate the rules yet the post and/or thread may get locked. Even if no one complains about the thread in a post, the post may be deleted with no explanation nor warning while the thread may be locked with no explanation nor warning even if it does not violate the rules.

I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill.

It happened to me.

[Zap]

It only takes one complaint, as I witnessed. Stats don't mean a thing. When GD is more likely to be targeted. Subject matter can be acceptable in most circles and then somebody has a complaint. For example: Families watch more sex and violence through media sources in one single day. And they happily invite it into their homes, no big deal to them!
Something can be posted in GD, its content is pretty much benign. Then some "enlightened soul" happens along and find its something they should complain about 5years later. Being there is uncertainty where things and what will be acceptable or not. Simply saying, the best as I see it, is not to share any more in my ongoing post I see how it could be targeted. Also, makes me gun-shy as to post any new threads here.

[Erik Rutins]

ORIGINAL: arvcran2
I like giving the moderators the benefit of the doubt, assuming they are not bots, they are also not perfect. We all live and learn. We also like to belong. So when in Matrix forums ... [8D]

I should have clarified that bot posts _are_ deleted, but real forum user posts/threads if they are against our rules should only ever be locked.

[Erik Rutins]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe
It happened to me.

Yes and I'm sorry about that, we just weren't coordinated on that at that time.

Regards,

- Erik

[JWW]

I'm thinking a 50% off one-time coupon to everyone who has posted in the General Discussion forum in the last 30 days would be appropriate compensation for our trauma.

[RangerJoe]

ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13

I'm thinking a 50% off one-time coupon to everyone who has posted in the General Discussion forum in the last 30 days would be appropriate compensation for our trauma.

I don't think so.

[operating]

ORIGINAL: Zap

It only takes one complaint, as I witnessed. Stats don't mean a thing. When GD is more likely to be targeted. Subject matter can be acceptable in most circles and then somebody has a complaint. For example: Families watch more sex and violence through media sources in one single day. And they happily invite it into their homes, no big deal to them!
Something can be posted in GD, its content is pretty much benign. Then some "enlightened soul" happens along and find its something they should complain about 5years later. Being there is uncertainty where things and what will be acceptable or not. Simply saying, the best as I see it, is not to share any more in my ongoing post I see how it could be targeted. Also, makes me gun-shy as to post any new threads here.

Your second paragraph is what caught my attention. Have seen where a perfectly legit thread got derailed (locked) by a member(s) who had no concern to those who contributed before them about the thread subject matter. As far as I am concerned: It's OK to have some lateral movement in a thread posting, such as humor, fact checking, brain fart, whatever as long as it's not going to be a totally out of order distraction such as personal attacks that are separate from the OP's thread. Hey, I'm not saying I'm some angel, but some are really out there, that don't cool it. Unfortunately when some of these blitzes go on, the thread get's shut down. It's at that point I have an issue with Matrix for it's the sum total of contributing posts are punished for the actions of a rabid lone wolf or two. In that case it's a darn shame. Often felt it was not a good forum policy. Sure wished that the offending party had been shut down instead of having the entire thread shut down.

I have to agree with Zap that there is a certain amount of risk when posting a thread here for there are sometimes unintended consequences that can put the OP in an awkward situation. There's alot of smart members here and for the most part helpful, sincere and have something to offer, which I think is great to see/read.

[JWW]

ORIGINAL: RangerJoe

ORIGINAL: jwarrenw13

I'm thinking a 50% off one-time coupon to everyone who has posted in the General Discussion forum in the last 30 days would be appropriate compensation for our trauma.

I don't think so.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It's worth a try.