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erdsja39
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Can't create supply train

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When i am trying to form a supply train for a town, i don't see it in movement and in the text box under the bouton !!!

And when i am trying to send supply from a city to the opr centre, i have got a range check error if i am trying to modify the number of supplies.

What is the problem ? Bugs or not ?

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RE: Can't create supply train

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Are you playing with Full Fog of War switched on?

With Full Fog of War on you will not be able to see your own units only their last reported position. My own advice is to do as I did and play a couple of campaigns with minimal fog of war to get the hang of the system and confirm that things are working properly before trying this level of realism.

I am only now trying my first campaign with FOW switched on after a week of playing it without.

Range Check Error.

Not sure about this problem. I have been getting it occassionally too when trying to blow up bridges. One possibility is that you are trying to send supplies from a city which doesn't really have any. However, the program ought to handle this situation so I think it still sounds like a bug. It might be helpful if you can post a screen image of the incident as I did for the bridge problem and also save a copy of the game turn so that Frank can check it if he needs to.
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RE: Can't create supply train

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Exactly i am in fog of war ...

So we can't see always our supply train ...

Thanks.
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RE: Can't create supply train

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Thank you for your response in normal mode it works.

But why does i have my division out of supply. They are near a depot ... and they are out of supply ...
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The Division is drawing its supply from the Corps Supply Park. Provided that it is within 1 hex of the Corps Commander and the Corps Commander has supplies remaining they will receive supplies.

If they are further than 1 hex form the Corps Commander they will be unable to draw supplies even if he has loads available and even if they are sitting on top of a depot.

However, I think I am right in saying that if you detach a Division from a Corps then its Divisional Commander will draw supplies from anywhere he can get his hands on them. So if he happens to be near a depot he will get them from there.

The key point here is that if you have a Division like the Austrian Reserve Divisions that are miles away from any of your Corps it is a good idea to detach them otherwise they won't be able to supply themselves.

Incidently the same is true of Corps Commanders who are miles from the Centre of Operations. It is better to give them an Independant Command and choose a local depot for them to draw supplies from than trying to ferry supplies 100 miles to try and feed them.
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RE: Can't create supply train

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Thanks a lot for your lights.

And for a division commander or a troop, what is the maximum distance from a supply depot ?
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Quoting from manual page 21 section 12.5

French Corps will try to keep four days worth of supplies on hand (with the HQ) while Austrian and Russian Corps will each keep two days of supplies. A corps picks up supply by being in the same or adjacent hex as its assigned supply unit or, failing that, from a friendly city that has supplies available. The supplies it needs are then immediately transferred directly to the corps HQ and deducted from the supply unit or town.

Note: For town/city read Depot although if you capture a town previously held by the enemy you get a few supply points anyway (presumably by looting) also capturing enemy supply wagons and depots works too.

So, the bottom line is that its not the end of the world if one or two corps are out of supply. In fact if you are advancing rapidly its almost inevitable that you will outstrip your own supply lines. The thing to avoid is having your corps HQ run out of supplies with no way to replenish. If that remains unresolved for too long you could find your corps literally disintegrating as men desert or surrender to the enemy.
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