When did "your" Singapore fall?

[Grotius]

Against the AI, on the easiest difficulty setting:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/19/42

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ASW attack at 44,63

Japanese Ships
MSW Asahi Maru #2
MSW Aoi Maru
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 2, on fire

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Sub attack at 49,48

Japanese Ships
TK Moji Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf

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Naval bombardment of Singkawang, at 25,57

Allied aircraft losses [on the ground]
Martin 139: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Fubuki
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi
DD Nowaki
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 52
Port supply hits 1

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Hurricane II x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
53 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 13 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
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ASW attack at 44,63

Japanese Ships
DD Minazuki

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 52329 troops, 392 guns, 167 vehicles

Defending force 25485 troops, 235 guns, 20 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)


Japanese ground losses:
1407 casualties reported
Guns lost 27
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
767 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 3


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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23236 troops, 316 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 8961 troops, 47 guns, 2 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 81083 troops, 592 guns, 105 vehicles

Defending force 26127 troops, 158 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
820 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Allied ground losses:
30746 casualties reported
Guns lost 136

[von Murrin]

Mine's still holding out at 02/03/41. Just ever so barely...[X(]

[vonmoltke]

Mine fell about the same time as yours Grotius, but it was because I decided to try extracting some troops in preparation to abandon it, and the evac went horribly wrong. [X(]

[Nikademus]

depends on both players.

IIRC, Raverdale lost his Singapore real early in a previous test because he made the mistake of attempting a counter-attack as the defender which failed. Under the new LCU rules, if the defender LCU"s launch an attack, successful or not, they lose the benefits of their FORT level for a full turn.

Well his attack failed disrupting his boys and negating his forts. Next turn Luskan was able to mop up. ouch.

Me of course... I took Singapore in my last game around early/mid Feb after a careful conservative approach designed to minimize casualties.

[Raverdave]

Well in my current game, Singapore fell on the 14th of Feb 1942. [:)]

[Synjin]

December 29th, 1941 in my current game...

But that's because I evacuated about 90% of my forces originally based in Malaya and shipped them up to Chandpur to defend India.

[Grotius]

Well in my current game, Singapore fell on the 14th of Feb 1942.

Nice!

[freeboy]

Once it fell really early.. Jan 10th .. last full game.. Late jan after being pounded by 4 full divisions, 12 air groups, 8 smaller formation lcu's, hq and art units for a week

[ZOOMIE1980]

ORIGINAL: Grotius

Against the AI, on the easiest difficulty setting:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/19/42

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ASW attack at 44,63

Japanese Ships
MSW Asahi Maru #2
MSW Aoi Maru
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 2, on fire

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Sub attack at 49,48

Japanese Ships
TK Moji Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf

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Naval bombardment of Singkawang, at 25,57

Allied aircraft losses [on the ground]
Martin 139: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Fubuki
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi
DD Nowaki
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 52
Port supply hits 1

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Hurricane II x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
53 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 13 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
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ASW attack at 44,63

Japanese Ships
DD Minazuki

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 52329 troops, 392 guns, 167 vehicles

Defending force 25485 troops, 235 guns, 20 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)


Japanese ground losses:
1407 casualties reported
Guns lost 27
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
767 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 3


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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23236 troops, 316 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 8961 troops, 47 guns, 2 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 81083 troops, 592 guns, 105 vehicles

Defending force 26127 troops, 158 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
820 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Allied ground losses:
30746 casualties reported
Guns lost 136

Mine fell 1/19/42.

[brisd]

My currant Rising Sun scenario vs Allied AI historical setting, Singapore fell 1/30/42. There were approximately 35K troops defending vs about 70K consisting of 4 infantry divisions plus engineers and artilliary. Fell in about 4 days once battle commenced, minimal casualties for my troops. I think keeping the troops fresh, supplied and the enemy on the run so they can't recover is the key to capture of any major fortified city.

[Grotius]

So Zoomie and I both lost Singapore on the same date. I lost Rangoon on January 28, Zoomie. How about you?

I'm counting on Doug to tough it out in the Phillipines til May. Right, Doug? Um, Doug?

[Titanwarrior89]

For me, it fell on 26 Jan 42 and PI (main islands) mid feb.[:D]

ORIGINAL: Grotius

Against the AI, on the easiest difficulty setting:

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/19/42

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ASW attack at 44,63

Japanese Ships
MSW Asahi Maru #2
MSW Aoi Maru
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukikaze

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, hits 2, on fire

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Sub attack at 49,48

Japanese Ships
TK Moji Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Seawolf

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Naval bombardment of Singkawang, at 25,57

Allied aircraft losses [on the ground]
Martin 139: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Usugumo
DD Fubuki
DD Hagikaze
DD Arashi
DD Nowaki
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 52
Port supply hits 1

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3
Hurricane II x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied ground losses:
53 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 7000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD John D. Ford, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
8 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 12000 feet
6 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 13 destroyed, 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane II x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 12000 feet
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ASW attack at 44,63

Japanese Ships
DD Minazuki

Allied Ships
SS KXVI, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Clark Field

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 52329 troops, 392 guns, 167 vehicles

Defending force 25485 troops, 235 guns, 20 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)


Japanese ground losses:
1407 casualties reported
Guns lost 27
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
767 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 3


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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 23236 troops, 316 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 8961 troops, 47 guns, 2 vehicles

Allied ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

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Ground combat at Singapore

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 81083 troops, 592 guns, 105 vehicles

Defending force 26127 troops, 158 guns, 3 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore base !!!

Japanese ground losses:
820 casualties reported
Guns lost 19

Allied ground losses:
30746 casualties reported
Guns lost 136

[chili614]

It is February 16th and Singapore is still holding out. My strategy was to abandon all Malaysian bases immediately for a massive retreat to the fortress. A single large supply run from Karachi ate up about 8 or 9 AK's, but I was able to get 100K supplies to Singapore. I then moved everthing in India to Rangoon as soon as possible. I was able to repel the Rangoon attack and then counter attack down the peninsula. I just took Bangkok as the rear forces are pretty weak. The planes on Singapore have been clobbering the Japanese supply convoys and I moved the Dutch PT boats up to finish off anything unloading up the coast. So far, I have never once attacked with my Singapore forces and have just kept them in the defensive. Fortification level is currently 8 and the Japanese have about a 2:1 ratio of infantry and guns to me (with A LOT) more vehicles.

[Grotius]

Sounds good, chili. In this first game against the AI, I decided to leave my troops in place just to see how it would play out, even though it's doubtless wiser to gather them in one place to make a stand. I noticed that Thayne uses this "house rule" in his impending PBEM game. In the same vein, I limited US moves in the first week of the war.

[netjam99]

Man...don't think I'lll hang on for a Historical capture date of Singapore. Its December 27th and the Japanese Army just beat me back from my mountain defensive line about 4 hexs N of the city. Reinforcements got ransacked by enemy bombers coming down the strait. I got an Aussie Brigade loading at Darwin...but who knows if they will even make a dent. Those political points are tough before being able to grab other Commands units.

By the way, I had to go into the Editor and put my Ship the HMS Zulu in the game! (I command her over at WWII Online) With me as Captain of course. Unfortunately, the Zulu was lost in the Death Ride of the Prince of Wales and Repulse. Yeah I knew better...but just wanted a gut busting battle to kick things off.

All and all, this is one heck of a war game....its early in my experience...but man I think its the best hex based game I've ever seen.

S!

[ctid98]

Mine hasn't and in fact I'm now counter attacking and doing a good job of it.

First of all I set every plane I could to attack the convoys supplying the Japs and got every ship I could to intercept them also. That included bringing in all the Dutch and British ships into the shelter of Singapore's CAP and then racing out on a night bombardment and intercept.

Second, I emptied India of everyone of fighting age and put him on a ship plus 100K in supplies and whilst all of Malaya fell Singapore held out and I'm now attacking with 100K men against 60K of his. I hope to roll up Malaya and into Indo China.

This of course is only against the computer. I'd never dream to to try this against a human opponent, Well maybe, if it goes really well you can cut off any forces heading into India..... Then again, I'll have to ponder this some more.

That said, I don't like the idea of just abandoning Singapore as some seem to have done, I think there is far more value to holding it for as long as possible because until it goes the Japs won't touch the Dutch and thats where the resources are. The longer you hold, the more the strain on getting the job done for them which means they could just be forced into diverting crucial men and supplies to finish you off rather than send them somewhere else. Just my opinion.

[The Gnome]

I played Malaya fairly conservatively against the AI. I haven't moved any troops in or out. I have, however evac'd the air groups - save the Buffaloes. So far, I've just been pushed back into the city on 1/1/42 and have roughly 70k supply. We'll see how it goes but I'm not optimistic and doubt I'll make it past the 10th.

[DrewMatrix]

Against AI, hard difficulty:

Jan 5th. I could never get the troops organized in Singapore (they kept moving north to try to slow the Japanese advance rather than staying there and prepping/digging in). BTW I did NOT add supplies to Singapore (thinking that would only be gving them to the Japanese).

Bataan is still strong and solid looking a few days after the fall of Singapore, BTW. I have many more troops in Bataan than I ever got into Singapore and the Japanese have fewer.

Now that Singapore has fallen, the IJN has _lots_ of transports all around the Malay peninsula. I am shredding them with ABDA air units based in Sumatra and Java.

[UncleBuck]

I am developing Kiska into a nice little base and I am thinking of invading one of the Northern most Shimas of the Home Islands see if that causes the enemy caniptions. Maybe stop some re-enforements from moving south.

[UncleBuck]

I lost Singapore on 1-26-42. With 37,000 casualties