Impact of Leaders in WitP

[Joel Billings]

Gary put together the following lists of the impact of various leader ratings on different aspects of the game. Here it is:

LEADER RATINGS

SKILL:
skill roll by air unit leader effects pilot experience gain

MORALE:
morale Rolls effect number of patrol aircraft that fly
morale Rolls effect number of strike aircraft that fly
morale roll effects land unit fatigue reduction
morale roll effects land unit morale reduction due to fatigue
morale roll effects land unit element disabled due to fatigue
morale roll effects disabled land unit element destroyed due to fatigue
morale roll effects air unit morale recovery
morale roll by HQ leader effects attacking land unit assault value
morale roll by HQ leader effects defending land unit assault value
morale roll by unit leader effects attacking land unit assault value
morale roll by unit leader effects defending land unit assault value

NAVAL:
naval roll by ASW ship commander effects sub search (ASW TFs only)
naval roll by sub captain effects sub contact chance
naval rating by sub captain effects subs chance to survive ASW attack
naval roll by TF commander effects chance of "crossing T" in surface combat
naval roll by TF commander effects chance of attaining surprise in surface combat
naval roll by ship captain effects ship's chance of locating a target during surface combat

AIR:
air roll by group leader effects number of strike aircraft that fly
air roll by air HQ leader effects number of strike aircraft that fly
air roll by air HQ leader effects number of patrol aircraft that fly

LAND:
land roll by HQ leader effects attacking land unit assault value
land roll by HQ leader effects defending land unit assault value
land roll by unit leader effects attacking land unit assault value
land roll by unit leader effects defending land unit assault value
land roll by unit leader effects defending land unit's firing accuracy
land roll by unit leader effects defending land unit's experience gain
land roll by unit leader effects attacking land unit's firing accuracy
land roll by unit leader effects attacking land unit's experience gain
land rating of amphib HQ's leader effects chance of amphib unload success

ADMIN
admin roll by unit leader effects ability to use supply to reduce disruption and fatigue
admin roll by HQ leader effects ability to use support to reduce disruption and fatigue

AGGRESSION
aggression roll by TF commander effects chance of Bombard TF to change mission to Surf-Com
aggression roll by TF commander effects chance TFs will converge more rapidly in Surf-Com
aggression rating of sub captain effects chance of contacting enemy TFs

[Nikademus]

to add a practical example, in case anyone missed it in the Japanse strategy thread)

say you have a IJA Div, Exp 70 with a leader with overall values of 70 attacking a US Regimental Combat team with the same stats...your average modified result in a clear unfortified hex will be 5-7:1 odds.

Change the US leader to 20 and you'll get modified odds about 5-6 times greater. (31-39:1 odds)

[tsimmonds]

morale roll effects land unit fatigue reduction
morale roll effects land unit morale reduction due to fatigue

That's some catch, that Catch-22[;)]

[Mr.Frag]

ORIGINAL: irrelevant

morale roll effects land unit fatigue reduction
morale roll effects land unit morale reduction due to fatigue

That's some catch, that Catch-22[;)]

When resting ... how much does fatigue get reduced? (happy with the case of bear, rests well, not happy means less rest as too busy whining)

When working ... how much morale do you loose from being tired? (unhappy will mean even more unhappy, happy workers not affected)

Think about them like that.

[tsimmonds]

I'm not quarrelling, I just find amusement everywhere. I'm lucky that way. Actually I'm very pleased to see this list.

[Feinder]

Wow. Great stuff! Great, Great stuff!

Any chance we can get similar sort of information on Leadership/Inspiration values? I've never really understood the difference. But I've got in in my head the Leadership trumps Inspiration.

But I've been wrong before. Just ask my wife...

[;)]

-F-

[Grotius]

That's a very helpful list! I guess I need to pay more attention to leaders. I tend to be lazy about air leader in particular. And I hadn't fully understood this one:

aggression roll by TF commander effects chance of Bombard TF to change mission to Surf-Com

So *that* explains it.

[mogami]

Hi

[von Murrin]

Excellent! This is precisely what I've been wanting!

Thanks for posting this, Joel.[:)]

[denisonh]

LMFAO[:D]

ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi

[Sonny]

ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi

Fantastic! I love those brilliant commercials.[:)]

[fbastos]

LEADER RATINGS

SKILL:
skill roll by air unit leader effects pilot experience gain

MORALE:
morale Rolls effect number of patrol aircraft that fly
morale Rolls effect number of strike aircraft that fly...etc...

SKILL = Leadership?
MORALE = Inspiration?

Yes? If so, I would assume that Leadership effects go far beyond the single line "effects pilot experience gain".

F.

[Tankerace]

ORIGINAL: Sonny

ORIGINAL: Mogami

Hi

Fantastic! I love those brilliant commercials.[:)]

[:D][:D][:D]

Thanks Mog, a great cap to a perfect day.

[Rainerle]

Hi,
what about the ranks of the commanders, the characteristics they have (aggressiveness etc.) and what best they are suited for (carrier fleet etc.)? How does the above mentioned combine with the latter ? No, formulas please, just a little bit more insight.

[Feinder]

I do know that the ranks don't give any actual benefit. The rank only dictates what they can and cannot command (as in, you won't be able to select a CPT to be flag officer for your TF, unless he is it by default, you'll only get the choice of Admirals or whatever, to command the TF).

I'm pretty sure that skill does -not- equal leadership. Skill is a separate rating. If you look in the editor, or some of the xls files available at Spooky's site, you can see the individual skill ratings (in air, land, sea, admin).

Same for moral and inspiration, they are different. Moral is a number that all units have separately, and it fluctuates. If you pull up a leaders "inspiration" rating, it is separate from the units moral rating.

That "best suited for" is telling you what their highest skill rating is (air, land, sea, admin). Now their highest skill rating may still suck, but it's what they're best at.

-F-

[PeteG662]

Now all we have to do is figure out how to keep the leaders where they are supposed to be and all will be right with the world!

[Oliver Heindorf]

Thank you for the information ! But honestly...this could have done earlier and belongs to the manual imho

[Subchaser]

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf

Thank you for the information ! But honestly...this could have done earlier and belongs to the manual imho

If you’re duly prepared for the game and know everything about it then it will be boring game with unhistorical outcome… you think that those "typos" in the manual regarding production output are real typos… ? [;)]

[Subchaser]

ORIGINAL: Joel Billings

Gary put together the following lists of the impact of various leader ratings on different aspects of the game. Here it is:

LEADER RATINGS
....
ADMIN
admin roll by unit leader effects ability to use supply to reduce disruption and fatigue
admin roll by HQ leader effects ability to use support to reduce disruption and fatigue
....

I thought, and as I understand it was confirmed by testers, that leaders with high admin ratings significantly speed up repair, but this ability is not listed!? Can someone explain this please?

[bilbow]

Hey Subchaser. Nice map mod. I've been unising it for 2 weeks and won't go back to the original