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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

Yes, add Ulan-Ude.

ORIGINAL: Borger Borgersen

ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Yes, add Ulan-Ude.

I agree too that Ulan Ude is added to the map. Froonp, can you show a screenshot how it looks in the Ulan Ude / Chita region with Ulan Ude added?

ORIGINAL: Incy
Did someone do some sort of research on the soviet resource near manchuria border?
In WiF, this resouce was in supply from Chita in clear weather. It's also 1 hex away from where the railroad crosses the border.
But in MWiF, it's now 5 hexes from Chita, the nearest city. That makes it much more difficult/dangerous to defend the resurce for russia.
Incy

ORIGINAL: Incy
Did someone do some sort of research on the soviet resource near manchuria border?
In WiF, this resouce was in supply from Chita in clear weather. It's also 1 hex away from where the railroad crosses the border.
But in MWiF, it's now 5 hexes from Chita, the nearest city. That makes it much more difficult/dangerous to defend the resurce for russia.
Incy

ORIGINAL: Froonp
This resource is about 30 miles from the Chinese border, so I think that the RP that MwiF map show here is at the right place on the map, and that I can label it Krasnokamensk.

ORIGINAL: Froonp
I did some research to find out where the oil depected here is coming from :

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From http://kodiakisland.net/timeline.html :

1890 First oil claims are staked in Cook Inlet.

1902 First oil production in Alaska.

1957 Atlantic Richfield discovers oil at Swanson River on the Kenai Peninsula, beginning Alaska's modern oil era. The Swanson River field on the Kenai Peninsula was the first commercial production site for oil and gas in Alaska's modern oil era. During the next ten years, additional oil fields are discovered offshore in nearby Cook Inlet and production platforms are installed to bring production on-line for the Middle Ground shoal field, the Granite Point field, the MacArthur River field and the Trading Bay field. By 1968, the Cook Inlet is producing nearly 200,000 barrels per day, and the income generated by oil production in Alaska is contributing more than 20% of the state government's total revenues.

1958 Congress passes Alaska Statehood Act conveying ownership of 104 million acres.

1959 Alaska is admitted to the Union as the 49th state, and William A. Egan becomes Alaska's first governor. Sitka pulp mill opens. State revenues: $25.4 million. British Petroleum begins to explore for oil on Alaska's North Slope.

1960 Amoco finds offshore oil in Cook Inlet.
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I said nothing for the moment, but I'll check if this oil is an EXTRA oil from the WiF game, or if it is an existing USA oil that has been relocated here.
I think I'll advocate getting rid of it, if it is an extra oil, as my research do not show that it was a source of oil during WWII.

Opinions ?

ORIGINAL: Froonp

About the oil resource that MWiF has in Alaska, USA :

ORIGINAL: Froonp
I did some research to find out where the oil depected here is coming from :

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From http://kodiakisland.net/timeline.html :

1890 First oil claims are staked in Cook Inlet.

1902 First oil production in Alaska.

1957 Atlantic Richfield discovers oil at Swanson River on the Kenai Peninsula, beginning Alaska's modern oil era. The Swanson River field on the Kenai Peninsula was the first commercial production site for oil and gas in Alaska's modern oil era. During the next ten years, additional oil fields are discovered offshore in nearby Cook Inlet and production platforms are installed to bring production on-line for the Middle Ground shoal field, the Granite Point field, the MacArthur River field and the Trading Bay field. By 1968, the Cook Inlet is producing nearly 200,000 barrels per day, and the income generated by oil production in Alaska is contributing more than 20% of the state government's total revenues.

1958 Congress passes Alaska Statehood Act conveying ownership of 104 million acres.

1959 Alaska is admitted to the Union as the 49th state, and William A. Egan becomes Alaska's first governor. Sitka pulp mill opens. State revenues: $25.4 million. British Petroleum begins to explore for oil on Alaska's North Slope.

1960 Amoco finds offshore oil in Cook Inlet.
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I said nothing for the moment, but I'll check if this oil is an EXTRA oil from the WiF game, or if it is an existing USA oil that has been relocated here.
I think I'll advocate getting rid of it, if it is an extra oil, as my research do not show that it was a source of oil during WWII.

Opinions ?

I've counted the Oil resources in MWiF, and the USA have 18 oil resources, 17 in the USA proper and 1 in Alaska (I know, Alaska is also the USA proper, but this was to differenciate).
- WiF FE has the USA having 17 oil resources.
- MWiF have the USA having 18 oil resources.

Having 18 oil resources is pretty much historical, and having 1 in Alaska is pretty much historical too, though it may be argued that the Alaskan oil production may have been too low during WWII to warrant 1 oil resource being placed there.
Also, this "extra" oil resource is not linked to the USA railway network, so CP need to be placed at sea to ship it at home (1 CP in the Gulf of Alaska to ship it to Vancouver, Canada).

So, what should we do ?
- Should this "extra" oil resource be deleted ?
- Should this "extra" oil resource be kept, as a sign from ADG (this is ADG who placed this oil resource on the map in the CWiF days, not me, nor Steve, nor Matrix) that they would have wished for it to be there, in the ever improving world of WiFFE) ?

Steve, do you think you could ask Harry ?