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RE: WiF Master Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:31 am
by Anendrue
Weight is not much of a factor . If yoiu use .020 thin flexible steel the weight really drops off. But the cost goes up.



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RE: WiF Master Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:48 am
by Anendrue
Steve, the map sections look great! It seems like the section create usable theaters of operations. So six sections at approx 7x5 ft, That fits a standard garage wall length of 21 feet damn near exactly if you overlap the maps. Use both walls and you have it made. I guess the .020mm thin flexible steel needs to go on my shopping list.
 
I have not been to a sign shop to check on materials yet. From what I remember on company projects - there is a vinyl banner material that will handle the fine level of printing we all want to see and it weathers nicely even outdoors. Whoever prints could probably do a small test print of 2'x2' in a busy hex area to see what it looks like. Maybe the Benelux region of Europe.
 
About the pixel scale. These maps are so large that I am not sure the eye could discern the hex ratio changes with so many in sight at a time.
 
I also agree on the fonts. Little problems on a small map are just that  - small. However, on a huge map the same problem becomes huge.

RE: WiF Master Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:13 am
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: abj9562

Steve, the map sections look great! It seems like the section create usable theaters of operations. So six sections at approx 7x5 ft, That fits a standard garage wall length of 21 feet damn near exactly if you overlap the maps. Use both walls and you have it made. I guess the .020mm thin flexible steel needs to go on my shopping list.

I have not been to a sign shop to check on materials yet. From what I remember on company projects - there is a vinyl banner material that will handle the fine level of printing we all want to see and it weathers nicely even outdoors. Whoever prints could probably do a small test print of 2'x2' in a busy hex area to see what it looks like. Maybe the Benelux region of Europe.

About the pixel scale. These maps are so large that I am not sure the eye could discern the hex ratio changes with so many in sight at a time.

I also agree on the fonts. Little problems on a small map are just that  - small. However, on a huge map the same problem becomes huge.
I talked to a (the?) printer yesterday. I want to do this is 4 steps:
1 - Have him send me 7' by 5' samples on 3 or 4 media, using the test print Patrice and I assembled almost exactly a year ago. That is the full vertical (195
hex rows) of Europe and Africa.
2 - Have him do a single page (Europe) on the selected media with the actual bitmap image that we will use as the final Europe segment.
3 - Have him do a full set of teh 6 map segments for review by me and David Heath (Matrix Games), and maybe Harry Rowland (ADG).
4 - Take orders.[:)]

You shouldn't spend money until step 4.[:-]

RE: WiF Master Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:14 am
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
I talked to a (the?) printer yesterday. I want to do this is 4 steps:
1 - Have him send me 7' by 5' samples on 3 or 4 media, using the test print Patrice and I assembled almost exactly a year ago. That is the full vertical (195
hex rows) of Europe and Africa.
2 - Have him do a single page (Europe) on the selected media with the actual bitmap image that we will use as the final Europe segment.
3 - Have him do a full set of teh 6 map segments for review by me and David Heath (Matrix Games), and maybe Harry Rowland (ADG).
4 - Take orders.[:)]

You shouldn't spend money until step 4.[:-]
I don't know if the process of arriving to step 4 will be long or not, but I'm ready to re-do the assembled image (from your large BMP screenshots, as we did last time) just before you make the real prints, so that we ensure we have the very last version of the map printed (and not a 1 year old map to which dozens of modifications were made).

RE: WiF Master Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:15 am
by Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
4 - Take orders.[:)]

You shouldn't spend money until step 4.[:-]
I order one !!! [:D]

RE: WiF Master Edition

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:02 pm
by Shannon V. OKeets
ORIGINAL: Froonp
ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
I talked to a (the?) printer yesterday. I want to do this is 4 steps:
1 - Have him send me 7' by 5' samples on 3 or 4 media, using the test print Patrice and I assembled almost exactly a year ago. That is the full vertical (195
hex rows) of Europe and Africa.
2 - Have him do a single page (Europe) on the selected media with the actual bitmap image that we will use as the final Europe segment.
3 - Have him do a full set of teh 6 map segments for review by me and David Heath (Matrix Games), and maybe Harry Rowland (ADG).
4 - Take orders.[:)]

You shouldn't spend money until step 4.[:-]
I don't know if the process of arriving to step 4 will be long or not, but I'm ready to re-do the assembled image (from your large BMP screenshots, as we did last time) just before you make the real prints, so that we ensure we have the very last version of the map printed (and not a 1 year old map to which dozens of modifications were made).
Thanks.

Step 2 has some tricky technical bits to it. Converting pixels to inches in particular.