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rofl well maybe 10 years back we did train with t-34s, but seriously tho, thank god we are getting Leopards, geez, those T-55s are OLD!

Originally posted by Ivan
rofl well maybe 10 years back we did train with t-34s, but seriously tho, thank god we are getting Leopards, geez, those T-55s are OLD!

Leopard 2's ROCK!

Just goes to prove there's still good cats around.



A Swedish cat. Cute. :p

Too bad our leos will not be as cute as yours. They need a bit of upgrading, or so I´ve heard....

About those T55s.....maybe we should donate them to the Estonians?:)

Come on the M1A2 is still the best tank, too bad the US Army thinks tanks are outdated.

yah the m1a2 is pretty much invincible.

Originally posted by Hades
Come on the M1A2 is still the best tank, too bad the US Army thinks tanks are outdated.

Hey, don´t get carried away. This thread is named "The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever", not "The best modern MBT".

The Big Red One

Greetings...

Pork Chop Hill. The Only war movie that isn't full of cliche, M48's pretending to be tigers, completely historicaly correct, and faithfully recreates an actual battle and it's conditions. I hate war movies that spend 90 minutes out of 120 trying to get you to feel the emotional pain of some poor slob you really don't give a hoot about, then make it seem so tramatic to them that "Oh my god! I'm actually here in the middle of a war! Oh Boo Hoo!!" Ugh... Black Hawk Downer (technicly it's not really the name of a movie:p ) was so insipidly Liberal! I was ashamed to watch it! If that's the way US rangers fight now, God help us all...

That's why Pork chop hill is the best. Greg Peck is tough as nails and never lets you forget it. BooYaW! 98 minutes of non-stop Intelligent action. Where the drama is intense not because of a good background score, but because the situation IS intense. No big special effects, just superb acting that displays every situation from cowerdice to Gallantry and every range in between.

Kanda'

Come on open up tell us how you really feel:rolleyes:

I think Pork Chop Hill was a good film for similar reasons.

So many good movies to pick...but my answer shall be - Enemy at the Gates, because i think battle of Stalingrad is most interesting battle ever

yah i really think enemy at the gates captured the true feel of stalingrad

Yeah, Enemy at the gates would be on my top-3 too, if only the characters would speak russian and german, instead of english. To me that totally killed the movie.

Enemy at gates is good film, but there are few moments that are not very correct and nice. Moment when one soldier rifle and another bullets for it looks fuuny, when russians run like idiots on german mg...

what do you mean?
It is a known fact that the russians had more men than rifles in the beginning.
i loved the 1 rifle, 14 men thing

At first months of the war , yes. But not in late 42. Russian troops had enougf rifles and ammo to ( in difference to artillery which tested sharp shortage of an ammunition ) equip every soldier.
I doubt that my grandfa would survived without rifle or bullets in Stalingrad

Originally posted by JonnieWalker
At first months of the war , yes. But not in late 42. Russian troops had enougf rifles and ammo to ( in difference to artillery which tested sharp shortage of an ammunition ) equip every soldier.
I doubt that my grandfa would survived without rifle or bullets in Stalingrad

Actually they didnt have rifles for all in Stalingrad and that is a fact from Anthony Beevors Book Stalingrad...happens to be a best book written about battles of Stalingrad this far IMO, so i kinda believe it if cant see other proves

Originally posted by ananias
Yeah, Enemy at the gates would be on my top-3 too, if only the characters would speak russian and german, instead of english. To me that totally killed the movie.

Yes, i agree with that language thing, but not many movies have Germans that really speak Germany and same goes to Russians...Except that i think it didnt kill movie because great actors and sfx...
Well, Das Boot have one and Stalingrad have one..cant remember much more...but even a right language speaking didnt save Stalingrad from bad actors..but thats only my opinion of course

I too do not apply for accuracy, besides what difference if we won this battle

Bad that you guys didn't see many russian war films, they pretty good enougf, especially epopee-movie "War" .

I´ve seen a russian war film, and it was quite good. It told the story of a group of russian soldiers stationed in a remonted outpost. They were constanly bugged by a lone sniper who, however, didn´t kill any of the soldiers until the very end of the movie. There was a good reason for that, but I think I´ll leave the details out.

There wasn´t much fighting in the film but that didn´t bother me. Too bad I can´t remeber the name of the film....



Btw, my favorite russian film is "Brother".