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RE: Avatar

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:20 pm
by JWW
Actually it would be both.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:17 pm
by Twotribes
Ever notice the people that complain about Fox have never actually watched it?

RE: Avatar

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:25 pm
by JWW
The best way is to watch all the big three, Fox, MSNBC, CNN. You often get three different versions of the same thing. And the truth is in there somewhere.

My favorite show on any of the three is Morning Joe on MSNBC. They give you something missing most of the time -- some balance.

And I say this as someone with moderate to conservative views; my favorite show on any of the big three cable news networks is on MSNBC.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:34 pm
by stuman
ORIGINAL: NefariousKoel

I saw the 3D version last week.  Worth seeing but still.. meh.

Nice and flashy.  I'd second the Pocahontas reference.  The plot is just another rehash for the most part.  Add a dash of politics and some shallow characters, you're good to go.

My thoughts also. Nice special effects, raises the bar in that respect. Otherwise it is sort of " Dances With Wolves in outer space ". Tired plot, same 'ole villans , etc.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:54 pm
by htuna
Just got back from seeing it with my ten year old.. we both loved it!!!

RE: Avatar

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:45 pm
by bairdlander2
I read online the other day some Americans are talking about deporting Cameron back to Canada because of the portrayal of US marines and this makes Cameron a "traitor" to USA.What a load of crap.Maybe they should bring back "freedom fries".

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:09 am
by JWW
In America today a half dozen people can get together and make a pronouncement and it will make the national news for 30 seconds.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:08 am
by sabre1
I love freedom fries. If Slick Wilhelm is nice, I might even share some.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:21 pm
by New York Jets
ORIGINAL: Twotribes

Ever notice the people that complain about Fox have never actually watched it?

How do YOU know I've never watched it? I actuallly have.

I even spent FIVE weeks in upstate New York at KAPL (Knoll's Atomic Power Labratory) where all they had in the canteen ALL day was FOX News, pal. I work on a Federal facility. ALL they show on the TV's, in the various common areas, is Fox News.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:30 pm
by New York Jets
ORIGINAL: JW

The best way is to watch all the big three, Fox, MSNBC, CNN. You often get three different versions of the same thing. And the truth is in there somewhere.

My favorite show on any of the three is Morning Joe on MSNBC. They give you something missing most of the time -- some balance.

And I say this as someone with moderate to conservative views; my favorite show on any of the big three cable news networks is on MSNBC.

Yeah, fortunately all three networks are bunched real close on my cable package (Ch's 44, 47, and 48) so it's really easy to switch around.

You bring up a good point. I watch Morning Joe, as well. Sometime's all of it, as it starts at 0300 local time, so catching the whole show doesn't work for me most times. I usually catch at least half of it. It seems to be the most balanced of any of the 'guest driven' talk shows on cable.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:48 pm
by Mobius
ORIGINAL: stuman
ORIGINAL: NefariousKoel
I saw the 3D version last week.  Worth seeing but still.. meh.
Nice and flashy.  I'd second the Pocahontas reference.  The plot is just another rehash for the most part.  Add a dash of politics and some shallow characters, you're good to go.
My thoughts also. Nice special effects, raises the bar in that respect. Otherwise it is sort of " Dances With Wolves in outer space ". Tired plot, same 'ole villans , etc.
Yeah, I was calling it 'Dances with Aliens' then I saw a spoof of the Pocahontas storyline with the names John Smith crossed out and replaced by Jake Sully and Pocahantas by Neytiri.
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/ ... 70bcca.jpg


RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:16 pm
by Doggie
It's Dances with Smurfs.[8|]

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:43 pm
by JudgeDredd
I see everybody's point - however, I must be able to detach more than others. I've seen Dances with Wolves and I've seen Pocahontas - and all I saw when I went to see Avatar was a great story, well told, great graphics, good cinematography and great casting...all well produced. [&o]

Maybe I'm just one of those low life plebs that can be easily entertained. [:'(]

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:27 pm
by Capt. Harlock
Yeah, I was calling it 'Dances with Aliens' then I saw a spoof of the Pocahontas storyline with the names John Smith crossed out and replaced by Jake Sully and Pocahantas by Neytiri.

There are also some remarkable similarities to "Ferngully: The Last Rainforest", an animated film with Robin Williams as the voice of a mentally unstable bat.[:D]

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:09 pm
by JWW
Well, it has happened.  Avatar has now killed someone.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/mo ... 5821333043

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:30 pm
by JudgeDredd
Crock [:-]

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:49 pm
by Southernland
ORIGINAL: JW

Well, it has happened.  Avatar has now killed someone.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/mo ... 5821333043

Evolution in action, survival of those suitable for the twenty century 3d environment LOL

RE: Avatar

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:35 pm
by Capt. Harlock
Late-breaking news is that the Chinese have pulled all the 2-D showings of the film in their country. This effectively censors it, since there aren't all that many 3-D theaters in China.
http://www.sphere.com/world/article/chi ... 2F19322383

Maybe it's not such a bad flick after all . . .

RE: Avatar

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:35 pm
by Capt. Harlock
I see everybody's point - however, I must be able to detach more than others.

If you ever needed confirmation that others don't detach as much, it's in today's letters to the editor of the L. A. Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/

The comparison to Afghanistan is especially troubling and wrong: the place is resource-poor, and we *do* have things the Afghans want, like roads and schools. Which is why the Taliban are mining the roads and blowing up the schools.

RE: Avatar

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 11:59 pm
by ilovestrategy
ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
I see everybody's point - however, I must be able to detach more than others.

If you ever needed confirmation that others don't detach as much, it's in today's letters to the editor of the L. A. Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/letters/

The comparison to Afghanistan is especially troubling and wrong: the place is resource-poor, and we *do* have things the Afghans want, like roads and schools. Which is why the Taliban are mining the roads and blowing up the schools.


Oh my god! It's a movie!