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RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:53 am
by Hard Sarge
from the info Docs, here some info from the battle
and how I would break it down, knowing what I seen

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:54 am
by Hard Sarge
II./ZG 26
claims 10 kills from that raid, the 110 is not a sitting down in the East

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:13 am
by Hard Sarge
okay, opening moves, a very fine line, you need some fighters in the air, but don't have much range, if you move, you cut down on how much they can fly, and not really any place for them to move to
so, if you start the ground war, to gain some space, you also, use up your bombers and fighters with ground support duties
so, I was able to move one of my fighter fields about 3 hexes forward, and they can now help support my airfields raids
I had been lucky so far, with my 110 coverage, the SU didn't really put up too many fighters
so, I gambled and guessed where I thought the SU would get some planes into the air
guessed right
right now, I am controlling my missions (Shift Right Click on the target, brings up the units that can fly the mission, just right click, lets the AI pick the forces, or you can just click at the top, on AI, and let the AI run all of the airfield attack missions)

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:14 am
by Hard Sarge
ahhh, 118 fighters in the air, my boys are going to enjoy this

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:16 am
by Hard Sarge
my loss was a 110 that a biplane shot down !
fighters clean the skies and the bombers took out those sitting on the ground
and, looks like my 110s are getting greedy !!!

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:32 am
by Hard Sarge
here is one of the Prime targets
hassle is, most times you will pull mainly ground attack planes for the job, which they suffer to Flak, and you want them for the ground attack part !!!
so, I pick a field father away from the front and get some of my tac bombers instead (one hassle with the AI control, it will use up all of your Ground attack planes)
but as you see, some 490 total planes sitting here

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:33 am
by Hard Sarge
dang, my 110s are greedy, they won't let my real fighters get a chance !
first raid cleaned house

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:35 am
by Hard Sarge
2nd raid (under the battle icon, top of message area, you see the << >>, click on that if it shows to move between the battles)

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:50 am
by Hard Sarge
and now, I can leave the field for later, if I have mission left to fly, or just wait for the over run (ready planes will fly away, damaged planes will get, well, overran)
for me, and from what I can tell from intel, if field has lots of fighters, then I send fighters, and light bombers, if field has bombers, I go heavy with the bombers (fighters will be in the air, bombers will be on the ground)
and just in case, when I test, I play with FOW off, I want to watch and see what the AI is doing, it may not be fair, or it may give me a bit of a edge, but, who cares how many games I win or lose during testing, I want to see what is going on

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:18 pm
by Hard Sarge
trying a different idea for my opening attacks
trying for a big pocket, caught em
by one hex !!!
first turn, took Riga, on the flanks of Minsk, south, looks like a screw up, I was setting up for a major battle/pocket, the Russians ran away

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:19 pm
by Hard Sarge
and the pocket

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:34 pm
by ComradeP
If that Rifle division near Vilnius can move 6 hexes to the Southwest, 5 of which over friendly terrain, the pocket will have a link to the rest of the front again.
RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:57 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: ComradeP
If that Rifle division near Vilnius can move 6 hexes to the Southwest, 5 of which over friendly terrain, the pocket will have a link to the rest of the front again.
well, you know what they say, the big question is, IF
they didn't get the chance
nice pocket, 250,000 men, almost 2400 Tanks

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:59 pm
by wmcalpine
Can you give us an idea how many men and how much material is in this huge pocket?
You answered the question while I was posting. Very nice pocket
RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:00 pm
by Hard Sarge
31 Divs, hmmmm, still don't like the overall idea

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:41 pm
by ComradeP
How did the commander of 6th Cavalry Corps get involved in a fight with the Soviet defending forces described as only the 204th Motorized Division?
Did the Soviets move him to a different formation on turn 1? I have a source saying a man with the same name and rank was commander of VI Mechanized Corps (4th, 7th Tank and 29 Motorized/Mechanized Rifle Divisions, all died the pocket).
RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:10 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: wmcalpine
Can you give us an idea how many men and how much material is in this huge pocket?
You answered the question while I was posting. Very nice pocket
not all of the Rifle Divs were full strength, but most of the Tank Divs were over
but, in the long run, I am way behind the curve. the AI already has it's 2nd line set, and I am not really even close to it, but the south will not a delay, they ran away
RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:12 pm
by Hard Sarge
ORIGINAL: ComradeP
How did the commander of 6th Cavalry Corps get involved in a fight with the Soviet defending forces described as only the 204th Motorized Division?
Did the Soviets move him to a different formation on turn 1? I have a source saying a man with the same name and rank was commander of VI Mechanized Corps (4th, 7th Tank and 29 Motorized/Mechanized Rifle Divisions, all died the pocket).
look at the snapshot, you will see the hex under attack shows 3 units there, so at least one of them is a HQ, maybe two, the HQ was overran during the battle (HQ don't show up in the combat message)
RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:24 pm
by Hard Sarge
ahhh, think I screwed the pouch in the south, but got a nice come back
don't really like leaving the enemy behind me, but, it has good points

RE: Detailed combat reporting
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:45 pm
by Hard Sarge
26 Divs (36 units) 233720 men, and 2136 Tanks
and it is way past my bed time, got to go to work in a few, so will finish the turn in the morning