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RE: RA 5.4
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:00 pm
by DOCUP
John
What CA are you thinking of using for a CA CV hybrid? Are you thinking of keeping any of the main guns or removing them. What about AC capacity?
RE: RA 5.4
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:15 pm
by John 3rd
Not sure. It sure was a weird looking ship. Need to find my drawings of it in a book somewhere...
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:17 pm
by John 3rd
Hey RED LANCER! I haven't seen your name pop-up in a long time. How are you Sir?
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:57 pm
by DOCUP
I found it they were called Aircraft Cruisers. Several different types were thought up but none made it.
Link Yes I know its wiki but it will give you and idea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_cruiser
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:00 pm
by John 3rd
I was just LOOKING there! Well done. I've got it in a book that I need to find on the shelves...
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:08 pm
by DOCUP
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:20 pm
by John 3rd
Found it. Warships After Washington has the Info.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:27 pm
by DOCUP
Wish I had the books you guys had. But not a bad looking ship. US could really use that in the early war. If used correctly.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:28 pm
by John 3rd
The book has it on page 304 (for anyone who has the book). It is an excellent resource.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:33 pm
by John 3rd
Displacement of 12,000 T, 30 Kt, carried 24 planes, 3x3 6" Turrets superimposed on the bow, and 8x1 5"/25 guns.
Tentative plans were for 12 Fighters and 12 DB.
Classified as a CL for Washington Naval Treaty purposes. The US toyed with the idea of building one or two in 1930...
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:01 pm
by Don Bowen
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Displacement of 12,000 T, 30 Kt, carried 24 planes, 3x3 6" Turrets superimposed on the bow, and 8x1 5"/25 guns.
Tentative plans were for 12 Fighters and 12 DB.
Classified as a CL for Washington Naval Treaty purposes. The US toyed with the idea of building one or two in 1930...
OK, now that I've helped with the main subject, I feel justified in posting:
http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/spicy-e ... 001981726/
I have a better recipe. John (or anyone else) can PM me for it.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:41 pm
by John 3rd
THAT is it!
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:50 pm
by John 3rd
This is what I wrote in the other thread:
We could allow for 1 or 2 built and seen as failures. Could we make them able to carry just fighters in 1941-42? Imagine a plane complement of 18-24. Would they have an organic air group/squadron OR would they be perfect for carrying a Marine Fighter Squadron?
As soon as possible we could allow for a conversion to a CVL possibility. If the player like having it then it can remain the same and have an upgrade path where more AA is added as the war progresses.
Wouldn't this be an interesting addition in the Philippines on Dec 7th. A refugee ship sent to the graveyard of ships: the Asiatic Fleet.
Just a thought...
RE: RA 5.4
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:31 am
by FatR
ORIGINAL: Symon
Ok, I'll do the art Stan wants. No brainer.
Much thanks in advance! If Jonn 3rd will agree with my idea regarding PT boats, we'll need a piece of art for them too:
http://www.navypedia.org/ships/germany/ger_mb_s30.htm
http://www.warshipsww2.eu/lode.php?lang ... dtrida=875
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:34 am
by FatR
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
This is what I wrote in the other thread:
We could allow for 1 or 2 built and seen as failures. Could we make them able to carry just fighters in 1941-42? Imagine a plane complement of 18-24. Would they have an organic air group/squadron OR would they be perfect for carrying a Marine Fighter Squadron?
As soon as possible we could allow for a conversion to a CVL possibility. If the player like having it then it can remain the same and have an upgrade path where more AA is added as the war progresses.
Wouldn't this be an interesting addition in the Philippines on Dec 7th. A refugee ship sent to the graveyard of ships: the Asiatic Fleet.
Just a thought...
I'd say 18 planes, with organic squadrons for them becoming available in late 1942. Before that Allied players will need to use Marine planes on board, or just convert them immediately, if he doesn't have big early plans for his carrier force.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:49 am
by John 3rd
OK. ON differing subjects:
1. FatR: Go ahead on all fronts. Let us see what we get.
2. I think we make the aircraft cruiser--just one--as an experimental ship that does not prove out in the 30s. Consider it like a bad Ranger.
3. We need a suitable name for it.
4. How about we IT transporting a Marine Fighter Squadron somewhere when the war begins??? Thought on that?
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:37 am
by RedLancer
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Hey RED LANCER! I haven't seen your name pop-up in a long time. How are you Sir?
I'm fine - been working on WitE but pop by occasionally to check on how my other friends are doing.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:23 pm
by MateDow
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
3. We need a suitable name for it.
Charlotte - This was the new name (renamed from
North Carolina in 1920) for the cruiser that conducted the first catapult tests for the US Navy. Has an aviation background, but still fits the naming scheme of cities. It also has the advantage of not being a name that was assigned to a later cruiser.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:21 pm
by DuckofTindalos
Did get assigned to a PF in mid-43, but that's probably less of an issue.
RE: RA 6.0
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:31 pm
by ny59giants
Name it Gettysburg or Harper's Ferry since most were name after American battles. I've decided to use some early president's name for the American CVs