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RE: 52 ROSTOV supply line
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:43 pm
by Michael T
Hence the term 'mountain troops'...
RE: 52 moscow
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:49 pm
by BrianG
I would disagree. I think you are likely to repeat the 1942 summer disaster of RED ARMY by commit big offense against a much stronger Germany, that is a wrong timing. You could open a Axis turn and check the reinforce schedule, in T51, they get huge reinforcement, 5 inf D, the powerful 24PzD, 2nd Hun ArmourD, if they are on the rail in T51, then they would be ready in the front for T54, 1942/06/25, then all your big offense troops in the south Rostov region could be in big danger. That said, your counter attacks are very impressive, and they have the merits in themselves( seriously disrupted your opponent's plan), but you simply can't afford to be too optimistic at this moment. A weak Army attacking the stronger Army is against the principle of WAR and it is unlikely to end well.
My knowledge of German reinforcement schedule is very limited.
These are all now stalling counterattacks to hopefully give me time to plug the baku gap. And deny supply.
He seems to have very little supply issues.
Thanks for the info.
RE: 52 ROSTOV supply line
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 10:54 pm
by BrianG
Hence the term 'mountain troops'...
I forgot about the marvelous interstate highway system they had built.
How many mules has silly been allotted?
query. His mp is like 216. If they retreat(minor miracle) will they surrender as too far away?
RE: 52 ROSTOV supply line
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:04 pm
by AppendixSE
Thank you for a really interesting AAR campaign.
I like that both you and Silly are keeping it civil with a minimum of whine when engine design decisions goes against you. Good sportsmanship! And makes the AAR a more fun read.
Lots of respect for keeping up the game despite setbacks you have occured. And still coming up with clever and funny counterattacks[&o]
24th panzer has been located
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:30 pm
by BrianG
24th panzer is one or two hexes north of Voroslask(bad spelling).
Which mean he had detrained and is now way East of the RR connection.
Move taking long time.
RE: 52 ROSTOV supply line
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:52 pm
by Manstein63
ORIGINAL: AppendixSE
Thank you for a really interesting AAR campaign.
I like that both you and Silly are keeping it civil with a minimum of whine when engine design decisions goes against you. Good sportsmanship! And makes the AAR a more fun read.
Lots of respect for keeping up the game despite setbacks you have occured. And still coming up with clever and funny counterattacks[&o]
+1
Manstein63
53
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:04 pm
by BrianG
rr
Krasnodor is R1 repair.
The 2 swamp hexes to its right were rr repaired by Silly this past turn.
They are connected to the port as rr is squeezed further north. This is where all his units are tracing supply to.
and of course the "THREAT LEVEL' indicator.
RE: 53
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:07 pm
by BrianG
Kransonor battle.
Can I win one once in a while. Please[:D]
Well yes as I attack twice and drive them back.
I squeeze in a cav 2 hexes to the river and cut the rr line just East of the swamps.
RE: 53
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:09 pm
by BrianG
Well Well.
We push Back the mountain infiltrators.
I think I can hold.
I like my 1000 cv for this attack.
RE: 53
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:12 pm
by BrianG
Well well.
The Russians win a mud battle.
I will lose my tank corp which is over the river.
I have brought in cav and tank reinforce to try and pressure area next turn.
RE: 53
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:14 pm
by BrianG
I attack 24th panzer.
my unit may disband b/c it became to week after this battle
53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:16 pm
by BrianG
Bakuu
Bad if he gets even moderate mp's next turn
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:18 pm
by BrianG
the coast.
rr s cut. He may attack and force the cav unit north over river but that will delay his repair.
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:20 pm
by BrianG
south Rostov.
Very fluid.
all depends on mp's and if he had some hidden units I don't see.
It could all go bad. I am trying to hold between the rivers where the rr runs.
Actually very interesting d position.
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:23 pm
by BrianG
Rostov.
He has moved mot div south of river to attack.
Should be very tough turn ahead.
Will silly attempt a big cut or stabilize his lines which he is willing to do in the past.
My guess is stabilize unless he has hidden units juiced up.
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:24 pm
by BrianG
Northwest Moscow is area of action.
Will he move these tank units south or attempt more local cut offs?
Zis is za question
You are all now up to date.
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:25 pm
by mktours
ORIGINAL: BrianG
Rostov.
He has moved mot div south of river to attack.
Should be very tough turn ahead.
Will silly attempt a big cut or stabilize his lines which he is willing to do in the past.
My guess is stabilize unless he has hidden units juiced up.
Your defense here looks in good shape.
Given so many Germany troops went south of Rostov, the heavy mass of RED ARMY here are fully justified, they not only may help the BAKU defense, but also, in the long run, would help the defense of Stalingrad, if the Axis still need to capture the city to win.
Regarding the helping of BAKU, it is only if your south troops could continue the rail cutting, otherwise only cutting rail in the ROSTOV region could be in vain.
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:37 pm
by mktours
ORIGINAL: BrianG
the coast.
rr s cut. He may attack and force the cav unit north over river but that will delay his repair.
I think that perhaps most of the people don't agree with your heavy deployment here, but your cutting Rail here surprise everyone, the Axis could have avoided this but he didn't.
If the Axis correct the situation here, then your troops could become far too wasteful, and given they are in such a dangerous situation, they need a lot of protection ( a very long protecting line must be hold, extending exactly to BAKU), The Axis only need to throw in 2-3 Div to deny the only benefit (Rail cutting) of the purpose of 30+ Russian divs, that is very poor benefit-cost count.
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:47 pm
by mktours
ORIGINAL: BrianG
Bakuu
Bad if he gets even moderate mp's next turn
I think that the Axis unit in hex (146,130), near the Ardon River, could be very dangerous, if the Axis have mountain troops there, they could easily pass the two mountain hexes and cut the Rail and all your west big troops (30+ units) west of TIBLIST. The division you deployed there seems unlikely to stop them, if AXIS determine to break through to the south of mountain there.
RE: 53 final
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:01 pm
by mktours
ORIGINAL: mktours
ORIGINAL: BrianG
Bakuu
Bad if he gets even moderate mp's next turn
I think that the Axis unit in hex (146,130), near the Ardon River, could be very dangerous, if the Axis have mountain troops there, they could easily pass the two mountain hexes and cut the Rail and all your west big troops (30+ units) west of TIBLIST. The division you deployed there seems unlikely to stop them, if AXIS determine to break through to the south of mountain there.
Some PzD are showing very bright color in fuel in this pic, so they have much fuel. Your defense in MAKHACHKALA region looks weak.
Given so many Axis troops went such a long way to get BAKU, I think 6+ guard rifle corps here will be fully justified, the more, the better. Better ready for the worst, than regret.
I think you are in very very bad situation. The limit units transported by sea is simply not enough to protect both BAKU and the extremely long life line of the 30+ units west of TIBLIST. Perhaps you should make the hard decision to give up everything west of TIBILIST and retreat fully quickly to the TIBILIST region, where the Axis could cut their life line.