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RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:38 pm
by James Fennell
From 1948-58 armoured reconnaissance regiments continued to use WW2 equipment - namely the Daimler Armoured Car, Daimler Dingo Scout Car, AEC Armoured Car and Staghound Armoured Car.
The new Saracen 6x6 APC was rushed into service in 1952 for use in Malaya and the Ferret Mk 1 scout car also entered service in 1952. The improved Ferret Mk 2 followed suit in 1954. But it was not until 1958 that the Saladin heavy armoured car entered service and the ATGM Ferret 2/6s followed in 1960.
Post-war Daimler Armoured Cars were armed with the 2 pounder gun with the 'littlejohn' squeezebore adapter. The The muzzle velocity of the Littlejohn APSV Mark II shell was 1,143 m/s compared with the 792 m/s of the normal 1.2 kg APCBC shell. The APSV shell was capable of penetrating 88 mm of armour at 450 m at a 30-degree angle of impact.
The picture shows a Daimler with Littlejohn adapter in Germany around 1948.

RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:51 pm
by James Fennell
The Staghound was used both as a company command vehicle and for overwatch. The Mk. III, with a Crusader-like turret and the 75mm gun from the Cromwell was used by company HQs for overwatch from 1948-58. Some Staghounds were given the 57mm and 75mm turrets from the AEC armoured car.

RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:58 pm
by James Fennell
The Daimler Dingo and Daimler Armoured Car combination was used in Korea and in Germany from 1948-1954. Each armoured car Squadron had three troops each with 4 x daimler Dingo scout cars (each armed with a Bren) and two Daimler Armoured Cars with 2 pounder/Littlejohn adapter. The picture shows a Dingo and Daimler Armoured Car of an armoured recce troop in Korea during the winter of 1950-1.

RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:33 pm
by James Fennell
Roadside bombs (IEDs) were a major problem in Malaya and required shipping many armoured vehicles to the theatre. Apart from Daimler Dingos and Ferrets, Saracen APCs and improvised armoured trucks (based on Quads and Beford RLs) were commonplace. This is a Humber Light Reconnaissance Car in use by a Ghurka unit. These were used from 1948-54.

RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:42 pm
by James Fennell
This is the Bedford RL Pig, an armoured truck developed in Malaya in 1953 where it was used by Ghurka, New Zealand and Rhodesian units. They were later sent to Aden and used from 1960-7 (where this one was photographed).

RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:46 pm
by James Fennell
Another vehicle used in Malaya was the Canadian CT4 armoured truck (based on a Quad chassis). These dated from WW2 and were used from 1948-58 by the Malayan Police after which they were replaced by the Humber Pig.

RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:47 pm
by James Fennell
The Centurion Mk. 10 was the definative British variant, manufactured from 1958 with the L7 105mm gun and a new 120mm thick armour on the glacis plate (up from 76mm on the Mk III and protection against the Soviet 100mm gun). The Mk. 10 also included the increased fuel capacity and thus range introduced on the Mk. 7. The Mk 8/2 was a similar upgrade to the Mk. 8, while the Mk. III's & Mk 5s were upgrade with 120mm armour and L7 gun as the Mk 6. By 1965 all British Army Centurions had been upgraded with 120mm frontal armour and L7 105mm gun, thermal sleeve and received IR night fighting lights and 12.7mm rangfing machine guns, new cupolas and 7.62mm cupola machine gun mounts.

RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 4:05 pm
by xj900uk
Is this available yet for downloading and playing? I'd love it if there were more British or CW scenarios made available
RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:37 pm
by Jason Petho
It will be included with the next Middle East Update, sometime next year.
RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:52 pm
by xj900uk
OK thanks, will that be an official update/patch from Matrix/Slitherine?
RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:21 pm
by Jason Petho
Yes, yes it will!
We will be releasing it after we release Vietnam:
CS Vietnam
Re: RE: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:10 pm
by Sunbather
Jason Petho wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:21 pm
Yes, yes it will!
We will be releasing it after we release Vietnam:
CS Vietnam
Am I correct to understand that this never happened?
Re: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:20 pm
by Jason Petho
2.30 is the official update for Middle East, although I don't recall if this was included.
I'll have to double check
Re: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:25 pm
by Jason Petho
Since we're on the subject, I'm still looking for some sources that identify the various OOB's of the army during the various decades and their locations. Much the same information as I have found for the US and the French would be ideal, especially for Cold War.
That would be fantastic if anyone could share that?
Re: Improving the UK OOB
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:00 pm
by Sunbather
Jason Petho wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:20 pm
2.30 is the official update for Middle East, although I don't recall if this was included.
I'll have to double check
I don't think it is. Not in the vanilla 2.30 version and it isn't included in the mods either. But after all, this thread is from 2020 and so I don't know if OP shelved the project?