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Re: AT Phoenix Version Open Beta v2.40.061 (29th Aug 2023)

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:30 pm
by GaryChildress
Is there a bug with oil production and usage in the Beta? I have vehicles, aircraft and ships and even when I don't move any of them and cut production to zero, I still use over 7000 oil per turn. I can see using some oil out of necessity, however, 7000 effectively consumes all that I produce every turn. Or is the game engine accidentally canceling out new production of oil or else zeroing out oil stocks prior to each turn? I note that I was producing a lot of oil until I started building a considerable number of subformations that use oil. As it stands, even with oil locations producing at maximum, I can't sustain my army for more than one turn at a time, and even then, I have to refrain from moving any units that would consume oil to move.

Something doesn't feel right about the oil situation.

Re: AT Phoenix Version Open Beta v2.40.061 (29th Aug 2023)

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:36 pm
by Ormand
Are you doing a lot antisupply and interception? Especially with bombers and ships. Now antisupply costs two rounds of combat for the subformation to conduct antisupply.

Send me a save file, and I'll try to track down where it is going: atg@vrdesigns.net

Re: AT Phoenix Version Open Beta v2.40.061 (29th Aug 2023)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:11 am
by GaryChildress
Ormand wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:36 pm Are you doing a lot antisupply and interception? Especially with bombers and ships. Now antisupply costs two rounds of combat for the subformation to conduct antisupply.

Send me a save file, and I'll try to track down where it is going: atg@vrdesigns.net
Thank you for the quick reply, Ormand. I sent a save game file to the email above. When I press the arrow button to advance each turn, I'm now staying at around ~7000 oil in stock, regardless of what I do. I tried not moving and I tried cutting off all production to see if those were not allowing me to stock up on more oil but those measures didn't work.

Re: AT Phoenix Version Open Beta v2.40.061 (29th Aug 2023)

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 12:36 am
by GaryChildress
I noticed that the report at the beginning of my turns is saying that I'm using almost 13,000 oil per turn. That doesn't sound right. The only activity I have going on is that I left 4 formations of 2 subs each (=8 subs) sitting offshore of an enemy port and each turn numbers of supply "killed" are posted on nearby hexes. Nothing else is moving and I set all production OFF before I ended the previous turn. According to the report that started the following turn I had 7000 oil at the end of last turn and that went down to 50 oil before production this turn, which means I used 6950 oil between the two consecutive turns. The oil was basically spent doing nothing else but having 8 subs posted stationary off shore of an enemy port city. If 8 subs are using that much oil to raid enemy supply shipping, then that strategy is costing me almost all of my oil production. Doesn't sound right to me.

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Re: AT Phoenix Version Open Beta v2.40.061 (29th Aug 2023)

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:10 am
by roy64
Over a year since any posts, any news about anything? :?

Re: AT Phoenix Version Open Beta v2.40.061 (29th Aug 2023)

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:55 am
by ernieschwitz
We are up to version 2.40.104

Read about it here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 7&t=403825