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Is there a bug with oil production and usage in the Beta? I have vehicles, aircraft and ships and even when I don't move any of them and cut production to zero, I still use over 7000 oil per turn. I can see using some oil out of necessity, however, 7000 effectively consumes all that I produce every turn. Or is the game engine accidentally canceling out new production of oil or else zeroing out oil stocks prior to each turn? I note that I was producing a lot of oil until I started building a considerable number of subformations that use oil. As it stands, even with oil locations producing at maximum, I can't sustain my army for more than one turn at a time, and even then, I have to refrain from moving any units that would consume oil to move.

Something doesn't feel right about the oil situation.

Are you doing a lot antisupply and interception? Especially with bombers and ships. Now antisupply costs two rounds of combat for the subformation to conduct antisupply.

Send me a save file, and I'll try to track down where it is going: atg@vrdesigns.net

Ormand wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:36 pm Are you doing a lot antisupply and interception? Especially with bombers and ships. Now antisupply costs two rounds of combat for the subformation to conduct antisupply.

Send me a save file, and I'll try to track down where it is going: atg@vrdesigns.net

Thank you for the quick reply, Ormand. I sent a save game file to the email above. When I press the arrow button to advance each turn, I'm now staying at around ~7000 oil in stock, regardless of what I do. I tried not moving and I tried cutting off all production to see if those were not allowing me to stock up on more oil but those measures didn't work.

I noticed that the report at the beginning of my turns is saying that I'm using almost 13,000 oil per turn. That doesn't sound right. The only activity I have going on is that I left 4 formations of 2 subs each (=8 subs) sitting offshore of an enemy port and each turn numbers of supply "killed" are posted on nearby hexes. Nothing else is moving and I set all production OFF before I ended the previous turn. According to the report that started the following turn I had 7000 oil at the end of last turn and that went down to 50 oil before production this turn, which means I used 6950 oil between the two consecutive turns. The oil was basically spent doing nothing else but having 8 subs posted stationary off shore of an enemy port city. If 8 subs are using that much oil to raid enemy supply shipping, then that strategy is costing me almost all of my oil production. Doesn't sound right to me.

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Over a year since any posts, any news about anything?

We are up to version 2.40.104

Read about it here: https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/view ... 7&t=403825

this may be a bug in the latest version. I tried to do strategic transfer, received an error and the game crashed. I haven't tried to replicate this again though. I'll do more testing to see.

Out of curiosity, was it a Formation/HQ you transferred to that had a lot of SFTs in it. And did those weigh alot?

not really sure, I'll have to do a retest to see.

I once managed to crash a game, by having too much weight in one HQ.

Back when GD had realistic ship weights that was a real possibility. Then Vic pointed out, that ships actually never get their weight used for anything. Ordinarily you'd have weight be a factor in transfers, but ships can't be transferred farther than they can move, and thus use their own movement for it, not the transfer movement. There is also nothing that can carry a sea formation, so it doesn't have a use their either.