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Re: Game Balance
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:34 pm
by AlvaroSousa
Ok what about this.....
I put in a HISTORICAL 1941 winter. This should solve all the issues as it will lower Soviet casualties, slow down the Germans, still give them umpth in 1942.
I was thinking about this post this morning dropping my kid off at school.
Blizzard for Jan. Feb, March which from what I understand is when the severe weather hit.
This would be in the Arctic and Arctic circle weather zones. Basically Kharkov and above.
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:31 pm
by Nirosi
It is certainly worth a try. One thing I have noticed with the actual first winter is that very often, if lucky with good weather in March of course, the German were ready to go back on offense by March. And if the Soviet did kamikaze attacks to lower German efficiency during the winter, they might delay them to April but at a huge cost.
Having blizzard guarantee until March (plus the Siberians with Winter specialization), might be enough the stress out the German and give some breathing space to the Soviets by adding two or so months of recovery for them. The 7 OP for mechs/armors earlier will also force a more cautious play by the Germans.
I also like this better than improving Soviet armies to counter the 1942 Panzerball. Improving Soviet armies might very well work also, but on the other hand it would also make the Panzerball a "must", limiting in a way Axis strategies. It might still come to that, but at least we have another option to try first.
PS : I would suggest to also make it somewhat harsher in the South too (even if less), if not the Axis will simply move the Panzerball there to be ready for Spring 42. Maybe guaranteed rain or heavy rain until April?
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:39 pm
by ncc1701e
Nirosi wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:31 pm
PS : I would suggest to also make it somewhat harsher in the South too (even if less), if not the Axis will simply move the Panzerball there to be ready for Spring 42. Maybe guaranteed rain or heavy rain until April?
Funny, I was thinking I will put all mech units near Berlin during winter and then come back later.
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:42 pm
by ncc1701e
sveint wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:19 pm
b) Germany takes close to zero casualties in 1941 and can just push though (instead of surrounding) Soviet lines.
This. Since operation Typhoon is skipped. Moscow or two hexes from Moscow at the end of September, now for obvious reason. Germans don't have to take more losses during winter.
- German losses during WW2 by month.JPG (110.37 KiB) Viewed 850 times
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:19 am
by MagicMissile
ncc1701e wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:39 pm
Nirosi wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:31 pm
Funny, I was thinking I will put all mech units near Berlin during winter and then come back later.
You can even do one better. I always send like half 6-7 or so of my mech units to enjoy the beaches of beautiful Sicily and southern Italy. Better weather and they can interfere with any nefarious plans by the allies in the Med winter 41/42
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/MM
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 7:13 pm
by ncc1701e
MagicMissile wrote: Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:19 am
ncc1701e wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:39 pm
Funny, I was thinking I will put all mech units near Berlin during winter and then come back later.
You can even do one better. I always send like half 6-7 or so of my mech units to enjoy the beaches of beautiful Sicily and southern Italy. Better weather and they can interfere with any nefarious plans by the allies in the Med winter 41/42
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/MM
Ah Italy... For the game, maybe have ALL the reserve armies Anti-Tank instead of Assault. This is +1 defense in 1941 instead of 1942. Anti-Tank should be the norm for Red Army.
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:53 pm
by generalfdog
reduce Italian Mountain units please! am I the only one who thinks they are to good?
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:20 pm
by ncc1701e
Italian armor on the Russian front are also powerful...
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:54 am
by generalfdog
I think Italy in general is to strong they can often hold NA for a long time without German help which is just wrong
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:02 pm
by sveint
Italy did have some good units, but I think they should perhaps only be able to make Mech, not Armor.
Mountain corps are fine, not that good.
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:27 pm
by canuckgamer
I think the experience of Italian ground units should be reduced. Historically, a vastly outnumbered Brit force routed the Italians in North Africa driving them all the way back to El Agheila resulting in Hitler sending German units and Rommel to the rescue. The Italian invasion of Greece was a fiasco until the Germans got involved again. Basically all their experiences were defeats. I don't know much about their air units although I would think their aircraft would not have been as advanced as opposing aircraft like the Spitfire or Hurricane.
Re: Game Balance
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:55 am
by battlevonwar
History is fitting a bit, to Warplan. Though really it's a bit tough to implement on the scale we're in.
Haven't really seen Strato Bombers work well. Doesn't appear that the cost to benefit ratio is there. Nor the damage to the German Economy. Unlike the Cat and Mouse U-boat War you don't get the same feel.
Italian Armor may be best limited in 1941s. . . Mechs Maybe 2. .
America and the UK don't seem to suffer morale hits to casualties. They land in 500,000 men and they just lose them all and no biggie. I think the US and UK should have to have a recovery point for dead. Italians too...Hungarians and Romanians didn't really want to put their men on the front line cause they were suspicious of one another and the Bulgarians wouldn't fight the Russians.