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RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:10 pm
by Ketza
Edit wars. Film at 11.


RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:09 pm
by TulliusDetritus
[center]Turn 51[/center]
[center]4 june 1942[/center]
Great news! The Akagi, Kaga, Soryu and Hiryu are now in the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Half of the Japanese naval pilots are lost too... Midway is definitely safe! [8D]
Oops, wrong game!
I really should have read the manual. Yes, the part which deals with the weather thing. Mud again. These are of course excellent news for me (the defending side).
BUT something worth mentioning. The Voronezh Front is here. I have been investigating and I found out the front should be between the Bryansk (future 2nd Belorrussian Front) and the Southwestern Front (future 3rd Ukrainian Front). The Voronezh Front itself will be renamed 1st Ukrainian Front.
Sooo I'll be assigning to this front armies of the left flank of the Bryansk Fromt, and armies of the right flank of the Southwesten Front. Easy eh? And expensive. But nothing is free in this world, as my mom likes to say [8D]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:21 pm
by TulliusDetritus
In fact, the following armies will be assigned to the Voronezh front: 1 [Bryansk] + 2 [Southwestern] = 3
The Southwestern Front will only have 2 armies and given that the Southern Front has 4, I will attach one Southern front army to the former.
Then everyone will have 3 armies. Everyone will be happy [8D]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:43 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Done [8D]
Air Support is on its way. 15 Air Army will arrive next week I think. I also have (Stavka Reserve) 1 x IAD (fighters) + 1 x ShAD (tactical bombers) + 1 x BAD (level bombers) air bases. Perfect!

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:31 pm
by TulliusDetritus
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Turn 52[/center]
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11 june 1942[/center]
"
Boy, this is going to hurt trying to bust thru those forts" 2ndACR's comment on the email [:D]
Definitely, 2ndACR's pantagruelic effort will be in the Velikie Luki area... apparently... He's advanced... the poor thing

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:40 pm
by TulliusDetritus
The defensive value of the units in his right flank was 19. So I massed everything in the area and unleashed the bears.
The front-line armies (2nd Shock and 4th) were reinforced by reserves of the Volkhov Front (one rifle division) and 2 Guards Rifle Divisions of the 3rd Shock Army (reserve army). The result? The offensive value was > 19 [8D] And yes, the fascists were forced to retreat. They lost like the 40% of the tanks so fair enough.

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:13 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Really, I don't know how he is going to make it [&:] I am sort of perplexed, maybe an offensive is impossible here.
I don't want to sell the skin of the wolf but...

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:37 pm
by TulliusDetritus
The other Panzer threat near Bryansk, Orel, Kursk. Not sure there is a real threat here. 1st and 4th Shock Reserve Armies are behind the front, just in case [;)]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:38 pm
by Tarhunnas
Hmmm, strange place for him to attack. What is he hoping to achieve, even if he succeeds? He must see that there are masses of Soviets behind the front...
Edit: I was referring to the Velikye Luki attack.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:45 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Tarhunnas, there will ALWAYS be masses of Soviet hordes... Once I know where the panzers are concentrated I will apply my axiom. I can't see how he is going to avoid that... A feint... But soon or late I will know the destination of the panzers, and therefore I will MASS my forces. Nothing in this world will stop me from concentrating my hordes [8D]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:53 pm
by TulliusDetritus
I had said there was another concentration of Panzers in the south. I thought he would divert them elsewhere. The case is they are staying in this area. There are minimum 4 Panzer Divisions, I guess. Therefore I am calling the Stavka Reserve Army which was supposed to reinforce the armies in the south: the 43rd Army [8D] I'm also bringing two Tank Corps (now I have 14) and one Cavalry Corps. Just in case. I might bring another Stavka Reserve Army on next turns. We will see.

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:04 pm
by randallw
A CV of 4 or 5 is about the best you can hope for from a mid 1942 tank corps; by the end of the year, if you get some cheap victories ( look to punch Axis minors in the face ) and get them Guards status they might be around 8 by the end of the year.
Right now the TOE is kind of soft, with about 5600 men and 100 tanks ( some just the light type ). The TOE upgrades to 63 light and 99 medium ( 1942b TOE ). Fun factor measurably increased! [:)]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:13 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Manpower keeps growing. Now I have 700k! [X(] What I said, I really have plenty of everything [:)]

RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:20 pm
by TulliusDetritus
Randall, no Corps was involved in the counter-attack near Velikie Luki. But for sure, these CV = 5, if massed (let's say 9 units) may give you a good offensive power [:)] That's better than the bloody '41 ants (and always UNready!)!
In fact, even if you don't buy a lot of corps, this is NOT the 1941 army [;)]
1) units gained [national] morale = MORE ready and experienced units and that's V I T A L
2) unlike on 1941, the Armies HQs have LOTS of support units attached = you are much more organised
3) the Air Force is more organized. Not top notch but you have planes that fly AND kill enemies
Yes, Corps should make the difference but I don't agree when people say this is the 1941 army, because it is NOT: 1), 2) and 3) [:)]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:07 am
by Mynok
You have a mess of guards. He's in trouble. [:D]
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:38 am
by Ketza
He might as well go on the defensive. Seems the prudent thing to do.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:46 pm
by jjdenver
Yeah, it looks like by June 42 the Germans are done and defensive is his best bet to make the war last to 44.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:54 pm
by Q-Ball
I give 2 ACR alot of credit for hanging in there, but he has made some mistakes along the way, and I don't think can recover. Good sport for playing it through though, most players would have quit.
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:43 pm
by Tarhunnas
ORIGINAL: Q-Ball
I give 2 ACR alot of credit for hanging in there, but he has made some mistakes along the way, and I don't think can recover. Good sport for playing it through though, most players would have quit.
Yep, agree on that! Good spirit!
RE: Stalin's in the gulag - Tullius (Soviet) vs 2ndACR (Axis)
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:07 pm
by TulliusDetritus
ORIGINAL: TulliusDetritus
In fact, even if you don't buy a lot of corps, this is NOT the 1941 army [;)]
1) units gained [national] morale = MORE ready and experienced units and that's V I T A L
2) unlike on 1941, the Armies HQs have LOTS of support units attached = you are much more organised
3) the Air Force is more organized. Not top notch but you have planes that fly AND kill enemies
ORIGINAL: Mynok
You have a mess of guards. He's in trouble. [:D]
I forgot that one [;)]
4) you have (on my game 58 Rifle Divisions) Guards Divisions [:D]