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Ah, but the point is that Preussia did not join the war untill everything was nearly over. But yes, I see your reasons, however I am no fan of them (how could I be, I was the one on the reciving end after all [:D]).

I think you fail to see the fact that I was not going to abandon the Ottoman Empire. It was thanks to Ottoman aid that France was able to recover to the extent she did. I was more than happy aiming for the positions behind the OE, so I would not have joined in an alliance against her no matter what.

Terje

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I think you fail to see the fact that I was not going to abandon the Ottoman Empire. It was thanks to Ottoman aid that France was able to recover to the extent she did. I was more than happy aiming for the positions behind the OE, so I would not have joined in an alliance against her no matter what.

Terje

Ah, music to my ears. [;)] I assume the aid you are refering to is the spice and luxury goods for a cheap price. It became evident that you no longer needed those, but it was a sign of continued support.

Had this game gone on, by the end of 1812 (after the last project,guns, was completed in Istanbul)the amount of textiles made available to France would have doubled. I noticed that there was a rather large increase of 'arts" being built-those could have continued to increase. France would have surpassed the O.E. before the end of the game. I was still building plenty, but time to completion is a bit on the long side. The base time,even after reducing feudal level to two, was 40 months w/o labor. In fast track provinces, such as Basra, completion times could be brought down to 4 months. That is with roads development optimized, and with max labor.

I was somewhat looking forward to France and the O.E. fighting everyone at once-it would have been...historic. [;)] I needed another year to be ready for that, but was moving towards provocative actions by the summer of 1812. The Ottoman Army was going to get another 10% expansion-and the patriotism upgrade for the home front.

Will be looking forward to reading these AAR's and reliving the game again.

Great game, a shame that I can't combine on the new PC.

I knew I'd end up with some bad karma after the sneak attack, but I also knew it was all or nothing lol. In hindsight, sneak attacks do seem a bit gamey and probably don't really belong in the game. The harsh terms of surrender with France were the same thing- all or nothing. At that point I was in dire straits, unable to defend my assets in Africa and Italy (due to ongoing conflicts of interest with GB) and had little choice but to try to carve a path by land to Italy (which at the time was still a valuable asset). It didn't work out in the end, of course, but I had to try. (Sorry Terje- nothing personal I swear! )

A very interesting game, although I think I'm not very charismatic with diplomacy. Would love to try another game in the future if we get a good patch that addresses many of the issues. Although I think I prefer the 1805 scenario overall.

Nothing taken personally at all, and it was a great fun game.
And yes, the OE&France vs All would have been fun hehe.

Terje

Sad to see this come to an end but a great read everyone. Thanks for the fun! Any plans for another one like this?

Thanks to all the players dedication to the game. And Ottoman Empire and France for the AAR's. I enjoyed the trip through (game)time. Able to keep up with the happenings allowed me to be a happy observer.

It was fun.
Thanks again.