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RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:48 pm
by Andy Mac
Huh ? I have not yet begun to fight ;)
 
Depending on what gets away CENTPAC is far far from dead !!!
 
 

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:51 pm
by Andy Mac
All that this defeat means is that Palmyra is probably lost.
 
in 3 months even if all of Hornet, Wasp and Indimatble are sunk I will have
 
3 x RN CV's ansd 1 x CVL = 180
10 x CVE's = 300
Big E, Sara and Lady Lex plus Essex = 360
 
If Hornet and Indy get away add 140 to that total.
 
Thats why what I did was so moronic
 

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:52 pm
by witpqs
Are you doing no withdrawals in this game?

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:12 pm
by Andy Mac
yes

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:36 pm
by Andy Mac
None could run fast enough Wasp Hornet and Indy all went down but my subs took Kaga with them

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:25 pm
by DivePac88
My commiserations Andy...

But things are not all that bad, as KB is fast approaching it's use-by-date. You have repaired carriers, and new carriers not far-off. Plus not long now, and Hellcats arrive, then his incoming strikes will be getting chewed to pieces.

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:32 pm
by Andy Mac
I would love to say I was unlucky or that it was unfair but the truth is I was a moron took an unessecary ruisk because I didnt like leaving 3rd marines rotting on a rock.
 
I have paid a heavy proce 3 Carriers and 2 Battleships have been sunk plus a few other ships.
 
However I will be back

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:37 pm
by Andy Mac
OK I am looking at the plan.
 
In last few days I lost 3 CV's - originally I was going to re commence Hydra in June 43 it will now need to wait until mid July so a 6 week delay - in July I recieve 3 Essex class and 3 new CVL's so more than offsets the losses I just took.
 
However this delay probably means no time for the SEAC side of the offensive which is irritating

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:46 pm
by Andy Mac
I am also irritatyed by Burma the whole point of drawing PZB into a war in north burma was to get him out of position for the real amphib attack that part of the plan is probably scuppered now I will need to reconsider

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:47 pm
by Andy Mac
43 was supposed to be about position and bases and getting ready for the killer blow in 44 when I went deep - i.e. take the Gilberts, PM, Solomons and Sumatra at the run before he can react so I am ready to hit Marshalls,Marianas, New Britain, Borneo and Malaya in 44
 
This is now in question

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:53 pm
by Andy Mac
My initial thoughts are as follows.
 
1. CENTPAC needs to proceed to retake Line Islands, Canton and Gilberts to open comms
2. I need to retake PM and take Solomons to make him think a SWPAC drive is still on the cards.
3. The most valuable attack I have is the one I was about to discount i.e. the Andaman Islands, Sabang, North Sumatra one.
 
I have stockpiled maases of fuel and supply at Ceylon, I have 7 fresh Divisions currently rested for operations in SEAC and I have drawn a large chunk of the Japanese Army into no mans land.
 
Accordingly. New Operations plan for Hydra II is being fomulated.
 

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:00 pm
by Nemo121
Remember operational art is the art of combing both acceptances and declinations of battle in order to achieve a greater strategic goal.

You just forgot about the greater strategic goal ( multi-division strategic offensives ) in order to rescue a small force ( a portion of a division ). And you got punished for it.

I know you're beating yourself up about it now and I don't say this to add to your beating up. But don't beat yourself up over this, you took a risk and it didn't pay off. The trick though is to learn the lesson in the line above. NEVER risk a great strategic undertaking for a matter of small tactical importance. You'll get away with it most of the time but when you don't something like this will happen.

It isn't as bad as you sometimes think it is in your head, neither is it as recoverable as you sometimes try to convince yourself.... Sit back, don't run a turn for 2 days and get perspective so you can examine this objectively without the emotions which are clearly occurring. Re-examine things without wishfull thinking or excessive recrimination and then decide what to do. It might be what you're thinking now but I doubt it.

You do, however, need perspective a lot more than you need your internal recriminations or internal wishful thinking. I'd be concerned you'd convince yourself that you just need to wait 6 weeks and then all will be fine... That strikes me as optimistic

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:04 pm
by Andy Mac
:) nope I need to wait for three months at least unfortuantely but in general I am annoyed at myself but on the other hand I know all is not lost nor am I going to launch a mad assault straight ont the Marianas as soon as I get a few Essex class.
 
As you say I got tactical when I should have been thinking strategic.
 
The only reason I am beating myself up a little bit is that I do actually know better than this and therefore shouldnt have made this mistake ah well cest la vie !!!
 
(Loss of trained pilots is a bit of a swine as well)

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:12 pm
by Andy Mac
Taking a long look round just now while I wait on the next turn.
 
Indian Army Divs get a TOE upgrade in a few days to add a 10th Inf Bn for HQ secuity as part of the all round defence this is an important upgrade as it increases the staying power of Indian Army units in these tight attritional battles

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:29 pm
by Andy Mac
I think KB's fighters took a bit of a kicking today not 100% sure as I havent seen the turn yet but few sweepers survived against the Corsairs on CAP
 
AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Mar 24, 43
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ASW attack near Johnston Island  at 168,120
 
Japanese Ships
      CL Agano, Torpedo hits 1
      DD Samidare
      DD Suzukaze
 
Allied Ships
      SS Grenadier, hits 4
 
 
 
SS Grenadier launches 4 torpedoes at CL Agano
Grenadier diving deep ....
DD Suzukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suzukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Suzukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Suzukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Suzukaze attacking submerged sub ....
DD Suzukaze is out of ASW ammo
DD Suzukaze is out of ASW ammo
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Palmyra at 170,133, Range 2,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CL Yura
      CL Tatsuta
      DD Asakaze
      DD Hayate
      DD Ishikaze
 
Allied Ships
      PT-157, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
      PT-163, Shell hits 18, and is sunk
      PT-165, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
 
 
 
Reduced visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 89% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 89% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
PT-157 sunk by DD Ishikaze at 2,000 yards
PT-165 sunk by DD Asakaze at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
DD Asakaze engages PT-163 at 2,000 yards
PT-163 sunk by CL Yura at 2,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
 
 
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Sub attack near Johnston Island  at 165,114
 
Japanese Ships
      SS I-162
 
Allied Ships
      CA Chicago, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
 
 
SS I-162 launches 4 torpedoes at CA Chicago
 
 
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Sub attack near Palmyra  at 173,120
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Natsushio
      CL Tenryu
      DD Yukikaze
      DD Tagonami
      DD Arashi
 
Allied Ships
      SS Whale
 
 
 
SS Whale launches 6 torpedoes at DD Natsushio
Whale diving deep ....
DD Tagonami fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Arashi attacking submerged sub ....
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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ASW attack near Baker Island  at 157,127
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Urukaze
 
Allied Ships
      SS Cuttlefish
 
 
 
SS Cuttlefish launches 4 torpedoes at DD Urukaze
DD Urukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Urukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Urukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Urukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Urukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 1,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya, Shell hits 1
      CA Haguro
      CL Kiso
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
      SC-738, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
      SC-739
      SC-742, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
      SC-743, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
      SC-744
      SC-751, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
 
 
 
Low visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 89% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 89% moonlight: 1,000 yards
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
CL Kiso engages SC-743 at 1,000 yards
CA Maya engages SC-742 at 1,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages SC-742 at 1,000 yards
CA Maya engages SC-738 at 1,000 yards
SC-738 sunk by DD Hagikaze at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
CA Maya engages SC-751 at 2,000 yards
SC-743 sunk by CA Maya at 2,000 yards
SC-742 sunk by DD Yamakaze at 2,000 yards
SC-751 sunk by CA Maya at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
CA Haguro engages SC-744 at 3,000 yards
CA Maya engages SC-744 at 3,000 yards
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 2,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya
      CA Haguro, Shell hits 1
      CL Kiso
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
      DM Tracy, Shell hits 2,  heavy fires
 
 
 
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 89% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 89% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 21,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DM Tracy at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DM Tracy at 4,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DM Tracy at 4,000 yards
Range closes to 3,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DM Tracy at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DM Tracy at 5,000 yards
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 3,000 Yards
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya, Shell hits 1
      CA Haguro
      CL Kiso, Shell hits 1
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma, Shell hits 3
 
Allied Ships
      BB Indiana, Shell hits 29, Torpedo hits 5, and is sunk
      DD Barton, Shell hits 1,  on fire
      DD Woodworth
      DD Bailey, Shell hits 1
 
 
 
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 89% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 89% moonlight: 3,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 3,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 3,000 yards
Fujiwara V. crosses the 'T'
BB Indiana engages CA Maya at 3,000 yards
CA Maya engages DD Bailey at 3,000 yards
BB Indiana engages CL Kiso at 3,000 yards
CA Maya engages DD Barton at 3,000 yards
DD Bailey engages DD Hagikaze at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
BB Indiana engages CA Maya at 5,000 yards
DD Bailey engages DD Hagikaze at 5,000 yards
BB Indiana engages CL Kiso at 5,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Barton at 5,000 yards
DD Bailey engages DD Yamakaze at 5,000 yards
Range closes to 2,000 yards
BB Indiana engages CA Haguro at 2,000 yards
BB Indiana engages CA Maya at 2,000 yards
DD Woodworth engages DD Inazuma at 2,000 yards
DD Barton engages DD Inazuma at 2,000 yards
BB Indiana sunk by DD Hagikaze at 2,000 yards
DD Maikaze engages DD Bailey at 2,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Bailey at 2,000 yards
DD Maikaze engages DD Woodworth at 2,000 yards
CL Kiso engages DD Barton at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Bailey engages DD Hagikaze at 3,000 yards
DD Inazuma engages DD Woodworth at 3,000 yards
DD Maikaze engages DD Barton at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Bailey at 7,000 yards
DD Woodworth engages DD Maikaze at 7,000 yards
CL Kiso engages DD Bailey at 7,000 yards
DD Hagikaze engages DD Barton at 7,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 2,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Kumano
      CL Agano
      CL Jintsu
      CL Kuma
      DD Samidare
      DD Suzukaze
 
Allied Ships
      DD Barton, Shell hits 1,  on fire
      DD Woodworth, Shell hits 1
      DD Bailey, Shell hits 1
 
 
 
Low visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 89% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 89% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 11,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Bailey at 2,000 yards
CL Kuma engages DD Bailey at 2,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages DD Bailey at 2,000 yards
DD Bailey engages DD Suzukaze at 2,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Woodworth at 2,000 yards
DD Barton engages DD Samidare at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
DD Suzukaze engages DD Bailey at 7,000 yards
DD Samidare engages DD Woodworth at 7,000 yards
CL Jintsu engages DD Barton at 7,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Sub attack near Palmyra  at 172,130
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Takanami
 
Allied Ships
      SS Sunfish
 
 
 
SS Sunfish launches 4 torpedoes at DD Takanami
Sunfish diving deep ....
DD Takanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Takanami fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Sub attack near Baker Island  at 157,127
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Urukaze
 
Allied Ships
      SS Cuttlefish
 
 
 
SS Cuttlefish launches 4 torpedoes at DD Urukaze
DD Urukaze fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 2,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya
      CA Haguro
      CL Kiso
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
      DD Barton
      DD Woodworth
      DD Bailey, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
 
 
 
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 82% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
CL Kiso engages DD Bailey at 2,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Woodworth at 2,000 yards
DD Woodworth engages DD Murasame at 2,000 yards
DD Bailey sunk by CL Kiso at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
DD Woodworth engages DD Murasame at 4,000 yards
DD Murasame engages DD Barton at 4,000 yards
DD Hamakaze engages DD Barton at 4,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 2,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya
      CA Haguro, Shell hits 1
      CL Kiso
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
      DD Barton,  on fire
      DD Woodworth, Shell hits 10, and is sunk
 
 
 
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 82% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Woodworth at 2,000 yards
CL Kiso engages DD Woodworth at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
DD Woodworth sunk by CA Haguro at 3,000 yards
CA Maya engages DD Barton at 3,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Barton at 3,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages DD Barton at 3,000 yards
Range increases to 6,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Barton at 6,000 yards
DD Barton engages DD Hamakaze at 6,000 yards
DD Maikaze engages DD Barton at 6,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 2,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya
      CA Haguro
      CL Kiso
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
      DD Barton,  on fire
 
 
 
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 82% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 3,000 yards
Range increases to 4,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
DD Barton engages DD Hamakaze at 5,000 yards
DD Ikazuchi engages DD Barton at 5,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...
 
 
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 2,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya
      CA Haguro
      CL Kiso
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
      DD Barton, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
 
 
 
Low visibility due to Thunderstorms  with 82% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 82% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
Range closes to 5,000 yards...
Range closes to 4,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 2,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 2,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 2,000 yards
CA Haguro engages DD Barton at 2,000 yards
DD Barton sunk by CA Haguro at 2,000 yards
DD Barton sunk by CA Haguro at 2,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
 
 
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Night Naval bombardment of Palmyra at 170,133
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses
 
Japanese Ships
      BB Musashi
      BB Yamato
      CL Kitakami
      CL Isuzu
      CL Sendai
      DD Fubuki
      DD Minegumo
      DD Yamagumo
      DD Natsugumo
      DD Naganami
      DD Makinami
      DD Makigumo
      DD Akigumo
      DD Yugumo
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      67 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 30 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Vehicles lost 13 (4 destroyed, 9 disabled)
 
 
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 70
Port hits 6
Port supply hits 2
 
F1M2 Pete acting as spotter for BB Musashi
BB Musashi firing at 3rd Marine Division
BB Yamato firing at 3rd Marine Division
CL Kitakami firing at 3rd Marine Division
CL Isuzu firing at Palmyra
CL Sendai firing at 3rd Marine Division
DD Fubuki firing at 3rd Marine Division
DD Minegumo firing at Palmyra
DD Yamagumo firing at Palmyra
DD Natsugumo firing at Palmyra
DD Naganami firing at 3rd Marine Division
DD Makinami firing at 3rd Marine Division
DD Makigumo firing at 3rd Marine Division
DD Akigumo firing at Palmyra
DD Yugumo firing at Palmyra
 
 
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Pre-Invasion action off Palmyra
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
 
24 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      BB Mutsu
      CL Yubari
      PB Okiyu Maru
      PB Kongo Maru #2
      APD Tade
      xAK Naples Maru
      DD Tadeshiwa
      CS Mizuho
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      4 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
BB Mutsu firing at 3rd Marine Division
CL Yubari firing at 3rd Marine Division
PB Okiyu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kongo Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
 
 
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Amphibious Assault at Palmyra
 
TF 120 troops unloading over beach at Palmyra, 170,133
 
Japanese ground losses:
      236 casualties reported
         Squads: 2 destroyed, 56 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 51 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 9 (0 destroyed, 9 disabled)
 
 
 
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad lost in surf during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /4
17 troops of a IJA Infantry Squad accidentally lost during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /5
10 Support troops accidentally lost during unload of 144th Infantry Rgt /16
 
 
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Invasion Support action off Palmyra
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
 
8 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      BB Mutsu
      CL Yubari
      DD Numakaze
      PB Okiyu Maru
      PB Kongo Maru #2
      xAK Kyokuzan Maru
      APD Tade
      DD Tadeshiwa
      CS Mizuho
 
Japanese ground losses:
      12 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
 
BB Mutsu firing at 3rd Marine Division
CL Yubari firing at 3rd Marine Division
DD Numakaze firing at 3rd Marine Division
PB Okiyu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kongo Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
DD Numakaze fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 6,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards
 
 
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Day Time Surface Combat, near Johnston Island at 164,112, Range 6,000 Yards
 
Japanese Ships
      CA Maya
      CA Haguro
      CL Kiso
      DD Maikaze
      DD Tokitsukaze
      DD Hamakaze
      DD Hagikaze
      DD Murasame
      DD Yamakaze
      DD Ikazuchi
      DD Inazuma
 
Allied Ships
      SC-739, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
      SC-744, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
 
 
 
Low visibility due to Thunderstorms
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms: 6,000 yards
Range closes to 21,000 yards...
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 15,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
Range closes to 10,000 yards...
Range closes to 9,000 yards...
Range closes to 8,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 6,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 6,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 6,000 yards
Range increases to 7,000 yards
CA Maya engages SC-744 at 7,000 yards
SC-744 sunk by CA Maya at 7,000 yards
DD Tokitsukaze engages SC-739 at 7,000 yards
Range increases to 10,000 yards
SC-739 sunk by CA Maya at 10,000 yards
Combat ends with last Allied ship sunk...
 
 
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Sub attack near Palmyra  at 171,134
 
Japanese Ships
      DD Makigumo
      BB Musashi
      BB Yamato
      CL Kitakami
      CL Isuzu
      DD Naganami
      DD Makinami
      DD Akigumo
      DD Yugumo
      DD Fubuki
      DD Minegumo
      DD Yamagumo
      DD Natsugumo
 
Allied Ships
      SS Silversides, hits 4
 
 
 
SS Silversides launches 6 torpedoes at DD Makigumo
DD Fubuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Minegumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Natsugumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Fubuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Yamagumo fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Fubuki attacking submerged sub ....
DD Fubuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fubuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fubuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Fubuki fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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ASW attack near Perth  at 38,147
 
Japanese Ships
      SS I-11, hits 12
 
Allied Ships
      DE Arrow
      TK Fenris
      xAP Koolinda
      xAP Koolama
      xAP Aorangi
      xAP Glenstrae
      xAK Vitorlock
      xAK Varela
      xAK Sepia
      xAK Markhor
      xAK Lavington Court
      xAK Governor
      xAK Esperance
      xAK Empire Plover
      xAK Barjora
      xAK Jalajaran
      xAK Gandara
      xAK African Prince
      DD Tjerk Hiddes
 
 
 
SS I-11 launches 6 torpedoes at DE Arrow
DD Tjerk Hiddes attacking submerged sub ....
DD Tjerk Hiddes fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tjerk Hiddes fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tjerk Hiddes fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Tjerk Hiddes fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid spotted at 34 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 38
      A6M2-N Rufe x 4
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      27 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 161,118
 
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
 
Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 37
      A6M3a Zero x 9
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38G Lightning x 9
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
 
 
 
CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters to 27000.
      Raid is overhead
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      9 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 32000.
      Raid is overhead
Zuikaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      6 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 28000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 2nd Loyal Battalion, at 59,37
 
Weather in hex: Clear sky
 
Raid spotted at 32 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      30 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       9 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 7000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Johnston Island , at 164,112
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 66
      A6M3a Zero x 13
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38G Lightning x 11
      P-39D Airacobra x 12
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 23
      F4U-1 Corsair x 38
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
      A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
      P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
      F4U-1 Corsair: 4 destroyed
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       5 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
VMF-112  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 30000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
VMF-122  with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 28300.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
VMF-123  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 30000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
VMF-212  with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 28300.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
VMF-221  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 25000 and 35000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 41 minutes
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 30000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 24000 and 31000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on 3rd Marine Division, at 170,133 (Palmyra)
 
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
 
Raid spotted at 48 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 40
      A6M2-N Rufe x 2
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      14 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 7000 feet *
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking Thirteenth USAAF /2 ...
Also attacking 3rd Marine Div /12 ...
 
 
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Morning Air attack on Kweilin , at 76,54
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 19
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 29
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      19 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 161,118
 
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
 
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 79 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 34
      A6M3a Zero x 8
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      Swordfish I x 25
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
      F4U-1 Corsair x 2
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
      Swordfish I: 9 destroyed
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
      F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
 
 
 
CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 30000 , scrambling fighters between 30000 and 31000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 55 minutes
      2 planes vectored on to bombers
Soryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 29000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
      3 planes vectored on to bombers
Hiryu-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 7 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 30000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 73 minutes
      7 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1 with A6M2 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 29000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
      4 planes vectored on to bombers
Zuikaku-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 28000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
      4 planes vectored on to bombers
 
 
 
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 164,112
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 21
      A6M3a Zero x 10
      B5N2 Kate x 12
      D4Y1 Judy x 3
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38G Lightning x 3
      P-39D Airacobra x 5
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 9
      F4U-1 Corsair x 23
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
      A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
      B5N2 Kate: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged
      D4Y1 Judy: 2 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      F4U-1 Corsair: 2 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
      CA Pensacola, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
      CLAA Oakland, Bomb hits 1,  heavy damage
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
               Naval Attack:  1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
 
CAP engaged:
VMF-112  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 9000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 91 minutes
VMF-122  with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 6000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 62 minutes
VMF-123  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 5000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 94 minutes
VMF-221  with F4U-1 Corsair (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 6000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 64 minutes
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 8000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 6000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Johnston Island , at 164,112
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 30
      A6M3a Zero x 4
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38G Lightning x 4
      P-39D Airacobra x 10
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 12
      F4U-1 Corsair x 17
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
      A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
      P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
      P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
      F4U-1 Corsair: 1 destroyed
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       1 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 30000 feet
 
CAP engaged:
VMF-112  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 35000.
      Raid is overhead
VMF-122  with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      5 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 28300.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
VMF-123  with F4U-1 Corsair (1 airborne, 2 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      3 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 28000.
      Raid is overhead
VMF-212  with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
      Raid is overhead
VMF-221  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      6 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 31000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      7 plane(s) intercepting now.
      0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 32100.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-38G Lightning (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      4 plane(s) intercepting now.
      Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters to 35000.
      Raid is overhead
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 35 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 12
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      14 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar sweeping at 9000 feet
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
 
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
 
Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 39
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      20 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      11 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 9000 feet *
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 8
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 48
      Ki-48-IIa Lily x 22
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-48-IIa Lily: 1 destroyed
 
 
 
Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 21
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      22 x Ki-48-IIa Lily bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 100 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Kalemyo , at 59,42
 
Weather in hex: Overcast
 
Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 36
      Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 14
      Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 25
      Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 21
      Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36
      Ki-49-IIa Helen x 88
 
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      5 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
      Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
 
 
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      27 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
      36 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo  ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo  ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo  ...
Also attacking 32nd Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo  ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo  ...
Also attacking 2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment ...
Also attacking Kalemyo  ...
Also attacking 25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment ...
Also attacking 14th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 7th Australian Division ...
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
 
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
 
Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 29
      G3M2 Nell x 18
      G4M1 Betty x 6
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      G3M2 Nell: 3 damaged
      G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 3 destroyed on ground
 
 
 
Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 34
 
Aircraft Attacking:
      18 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
       6 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
 
Also attacking Palmyra  ...
Also attacking Palmyra  ...
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on 3rd Marine Division, at 170,133 (Palmyra)
 
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
 
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 20
      G3M2 Nell x 8
 
 
 
No Japanese losses
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      13 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 9000 feet
               Ground Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on Palmyra , at 170,133
 
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
 
Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      G3M2 Nell x 8
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses
 
 
 
Runway hits 7
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       8 x G3M2 Nell bombing from 9000 feet
               Airfield Attack:  2 x 250 kg GP Bomb,  4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
 
 
 
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Johnston Island at 164,112
 
Weather in hex: Severe storms
 
Raid detected at 120 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 51 minutes
 
Japanese aircraft
      A6M2 Zero x 29
      A6M3a Zero x 9
      B5N2 Kate x 2
 
 
 
Allied aircraft
      P-38G Lightning x 2
      P-39D Airacobra x 5
      F4F-4 Wildcat x 4
      F4U-1 Corsair x 9
 
 
Japanese aircraft losses
      A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
      A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
      B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
Allied aircraft losses
      P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
      P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
      F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
 
Allied Ships
      CLAA Oakland, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
 
 
 
Aircraft Attacking:
       2 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 4000 feet
               Naval Attack:  2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
 
CAP engaged:
VMF-122  with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 19000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 43 minutes
35th FG/39th FS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
VMF-112  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes
VMF-123  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 14000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
VMF-212  with F4F-4 Wildcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (1 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
VMF-221  with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 17000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
318th FG/73rd FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
      (2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
      2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
      Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters to 12000.
      Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
 
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring an Allied CLAA
 
 
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Invasion Support action off Palmyra
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force
 
18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
 
Japanese Ships
      PB Okiyu Maru
      PB Kongo Maru #2
      APD Tade
      DD Tadeshiwa
      CS Mizuho
 
Japanese ground losses:
      18 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
 
 
 
PB Okiyu Maru fired at enemy troops
PB Kongo Maru #2 fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards
 
 
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Ground combat at 61,44
 
Japanese Deliberate attack
 
Attacking force 7341 troops, 45 guns, 103 vehicles, Assault Value = 308
 
Defending force 4231 troops, 52 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 177
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 202
 
Allied adjusted defense: 695
 
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:
 
Japanese ground losses:
      605 casualties reported
         Squads: 4 destroyed, 98 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 71 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      244 casualties reported
         Squads: 4 destroyed, 17 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
         Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Assaulting units:
    113th Infantry Regiment
    5th Tank Regiment
    16th Infantry Regiment
 
Defending units:
    66th Chinese/C Corps
 
 
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Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
 
Japanese Deliberate attack
 
Attacking force 67736 troops, 750 guns, 908 vehicles, Assault Value = 2568
 
Defending force 24142 troops, 581 guns, 708 vehicles, Assault Value = 690
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 645
 
Allied adjusted defense: 1621
 
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      2227 casualties reported
         Squads: 10 destroyed, 70 disabled
         Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 107 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
      Vehicles lost 35 (1 destroyed, 34 disabled)
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      517 casualties reported
         Squads: 2 destroyed, 35 disabled
         Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 80 disabled
         Engineers: 2 destroyed, 9 disabled
      Vehicles lost 43 (5 destroyed, 38 disabled)
      Units destroyed 1
 
 
Assaulting units:
    79th Infantry Regiment
    2nd Mobile Infantry Regiment
    2nd Recon Battalion
    1st Recon Battalion
    65th Brigade
    2nd Mobile Engineer Regiment
    6th Guards Division
    1st Formosa Inf. Regiment
    14th Tank Regiment
    2nd Tank Regiment
    33rd Division
    Imperial Guards Division
    1st Tank Regiment
    24th Infantry Regiment
    6th Tank Regiment
    38th Division
    22nd Recon Regiment
    Guards Tank Division
    21st Army
 
Defending units:
    2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
    7th Australian Division
    32nd Infantry Division
    14th Indian Division
    3rd Heavy AA Rgt /1
    Pathan Construction Battalion
    25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
    8th Belfast Heavy AA Rgt /1
    13th Indian Light AA Rgt /1
    1st KNIL AA Bn /1
 
 
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Ground combat at Tezpur (60,36)
 
Allied Shock attack
 
Attacking force 10314 troops, 153 guns, 277 vehicles, Assault Value = 663
 
Defending force 841 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 26
 
Allied adjusted assault: 323
 
Japanese adjusted defense: 1
 
Allied assault odds: 323 to 1
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      1072 casualties reported
         Squads: 62 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 13 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Units destroyed 1
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      41 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
         Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
 
 
Assaulting units:
    26th Indian Brigade
    2nd Gordons Battalion
    Rifles of Canada Battalion
    50th Tank Brigade
    3/6 Ghurka Rifles Battalion
    29th British Brigade
    50th Indian Para Brigade
    21st USN Naval Construction Battalion
    1st Bengal Construction Battalion
    1st RAF Advanced Base Force
 
Defending units:
    3rd Raiding Regiment
    4th Raiding Rgt /1
 
 
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Ground combat at Palmyra (170,133)
 
Japanese Shock attack
 
Attacking force 3104 troops, 40 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 79
 
Defending force 1661 troops, 45 guns, 99 vehicles, Assault Value = 2
 
Japanese adjusted assault: 7
 
Allied adjusted defense: 1
 
Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)
 
Japanese forces CAPTURE Palmyra !!!
 
Allied aircraft
      no flights
 
Allied aircraft losses
No Allied losses
 
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), preparation(-), fatigue(-)
 experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
 
Japanese ground losses:
      148 casualties reported
         Squads: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
         Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
 
 
Allied ground losses:
      358 casualties reported
         Squads: 13 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Non Combat: 219 destroyed, 0 disabled
         Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
      Guns lost 53 (53 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Vehicles lost 68 (68 destroyed, 0 disabled)
      Units destroyed 2
 
 
Assaulting units:
    144th Infantry Rgt /3
 
Defending units:
    3rd Marine Div /12
    Thirteenth USAAF /2
 
 
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3rd Raiding Regiment Wiped Out at Tezpur by attrition!!!

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:46 pm
by Andy Mac
Been taking a long hartd look at the box I have gotten myself into.
 
Line Islands/Canton/Baker held against me means I cannot simply transfer my focus to SOPAC or SWPAC I have ground forces but not the shipping or fuel.
 
Same in SEAC I concentrated in order to kick the gate open and then failed to kick it open....
 
I can see few alternatives but to sit still and try again in 4 months this time. The alternative is to transfer my existing operatinal fleet which has 1 CV and a few CVE's to SEAC now via capetown with enough screen and amphibs etc to enable at least Bucaneer to be launched it probably delays the counterattack in CENTPAC a few months maybe not a bad thing.
 
My over concentration has hurt me so far so now is probably the time to do something about it
 
Andy

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:02 pm
by Andy Mac
I have plenty of LCU's fuilly prepped and I have the Japanese out of position in Burma which is where I wanted them but I have bled the RAF white to achieve it.
 
I can do one of three or four things.
 
1. Sit tight train train train/repair repair repair for four months then go back with 3 Essex Class, 3 other US CV's and 3 RN's CV's plus a horde of CVE's etc/
 
2. Transfer Enterprise and 6 CVE's now to SWPAC or SEAC with support troops and enough other assets to get the job done at PM or Bucaneer.
 
3. Go for a low risk invasion of PM......if I only transfer some surface assets and enough lift to unload the forces in SWPAC to retake PM i.e. do it with no carriers...I could transfer 2 of the old R class RN BB's and a strong CA/CL TF to SWPAC augnemt it with whats left of Eastern Fleet and some transports and try a smash and grab on PM. Cover it with hundreds of 4E and P38's I can probably do it in 2 months without compromising CENTAC art all at least it opens up another theatre.
 
4. Try the same as 3 but against Sabang - accept some losses but an invasion straight from India could probably get ashore intact.
 
Lots of other options have occured to me but 3. is looking like the best option for now.
 
Got a few days to think about it
 
Andy

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:29 pm
by pat.casey
I like option #4, provided you can get ashore with enough force and enough fighters to hold the place and not have it get bombed into the stone age.
The nice thing is that a strong lodgement there opens the possibility of pressuring him with land and air forces (of which you have a lot) rather than naval forces (where you're weak).

You can dream of a scenario where he transfers major fleet assets up there to opposed you, but that's surprise me. I assume he'll try to bog you down with LCUs and LBS

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:30 pm
by traskott
I'll go for 2. He will proably think you'll turn cautious after this last battle, and won't expect that move. 

RE: Deafeat in CENTPAC

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:41 pm
by Nemo121
Hmm, taking action in order to take action is what got you into this mess. Sometimes declining action IS the best thing to do.

I think you are far too active with your carriers. They're always running hither and thither doing things. Mine spend, maybe 10% of their entire life not tied to the docks and even then I think I probably use them too much and try everything I can to reduce that number to 5%. Yours seem to be at sea all the time running minor operations etc.


I think what you need to do is take a break for a few days ( which, I note, you haven't done yet ) and think of a truly important STRATEGIC operation you can conduct over the next 6 months - it might be in 1 month or it might be 5 months but give yourself a six month timescale. Then put your CVs into port and don't touch them until it is time for them to leave port to escort the invasion convoys for that operation.


You are running right from one situation where you lost 3 CVs because you lost sight of the strategically important issue into another where you are running the risk of doing something strategically unimportant at the risk of your carriers. That's bad, bad strategy.


If you can't do PM without the carriers then don't do it but above all don't do it at the risk of the carriers. It isn't worth it.