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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 9:45 pm
by Canoerebel
8/4/44

Convergence: Allied attacks today in China and Formosa were perfectly synchronized and powerfully delivered. The series of blows - today in particular, but yesterday too - have John's full attention. KB is moving strongly NE into the Makassar Strait and the Pacific. I don't think he is prepared to lose Formosa without a fight.

Battle of Tsinkiang: The Allies whip John's main coastal army, which was already battered. The enemy retires to Amoy, with six Allied units in pursuit. Four of them - tank units - have already arrived at Amoy and will attack tomorrow. I think Amoy will fall the day after tomorrow.

This, combined with Formosa's plight, may well draw KB into a decisive campaign.

I'll post on Formosa shortly.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:04 pm
by Canoerebel
8/4/44

Peep Show: Strong Allied air attacks and bombardments target Formosa's airfields (and one port). Those airfields are in pretty bad shape now.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:10 pm
by Lowpe
This is a nightmare situation for Japan, I think. Even if China was fully conquered by Japan, it would be exceedingly tough & with China very active, and most likely getting stronger every day...

Forts 1...what do you think the forts are at Amoy? I guess you will find out tomorrow.

What does recon spot at Hong Kong? There is no Japanese garrison requirement there.

Your invasion has really cracked the game, and you accomplished it on the cheap...the game is really your oyster now so to speak with lots of avenues forward for you.

The question is can you get auto victory prior to Jan 1, 1945? Are you even trying to get auto victory...or you are just methodically whittling Japan down to size?


RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:15 pm
by Canoerebel
8/4/44

KB in the DEI: See map for details.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:21 pm
by Canoerebel
ORIGINAL: Lowpe

This is a nightmare situation for Japan, I think. Even if China was fully conquered by Japan, it would be exceedingly tough & with China very active, and most likely getting stronger every day...

Forts 1...what do you think the forts are at Amoy? I guess you will find out tomorrow.

What does recon spot at Hong Kong? There is no Japanese garrison requirement there.

Your invasion has really cracked the game, and you accomplished it on the cheap...the game is really your oyster now so to speak with lots of avenues forward for you.

The question is can you get auto victory prior to Jan 1, 1945? Are you even trying to get auto victory...or you are just methodically whittling Japan down to size?

Amoy might have five or six forts, but it's open terrain and he has no combat power there. It'll fall soon.

Hong Kong is modestly garrisoned. Canton is modestly garrisoned (I think he just withdrew one unit to plug holes further east).

Regarding Victory Points, for most of the game I mostly ignored them. I was intent on achieving a favorable military position, with the idea of eventually being able to efficiently work on those Victory Points. I've recently turned my attention that way, but I'm not necessarily shooting for victory at any particular date. I don't really know yet what's possible. I won't know until I have enough strategic bombing points under my belt to get a feel for how that'll go.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:12 am
by Canoerebel
I'm driving to Miami today (780 miles) to help move my mom and stepfather from there to Louisville. Driving from Miami to Louisville over the weekend, I'll drive right by my house here, so I'll spend one night at home, probably Sunday. Then it's on to Louisville. And then back home around next Tuesday.

So I'll do a turn on Sunday, but other than that I'll be away for the next seven days.

Y'all American folks (Yankees included) have a great Memorial Day Weekend. Y'all Cousins Across the Pond and All Around the Globe For that Matter, we're feeling for you guys. And all the rest of you good folks, from South Korea to Singapore to Italy to wherever the heck you happen to be, thanks for reading and have a good week!

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:37 am
by JohnDillworth
I'm driving to Miami today (780 miles) to help move my mom and stepfather from there to Louisville. Driving from Miami to Louisville over the weekend,
I do like long drives but this one is a bit much. I'm sure the company & conversation is good but what does one listen to on the radio for that long? Podcasts & Sirius/XM usually see me thorough. Good luck, have Memorial Day weekend and drive safely

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:24 am
by Encircled
To us Brits, thats just an insane drive.

Thats from Lands End to John O'Groats, give or take a few miles

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:26 am
by JeffroK
Try 3 days, Melbourne to Perth!

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:54 am
by Encircled
I think on that one, "I spy" would get very boring, very quickly [:)]

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:57 am
by ny59giants
To us Brits, thats just an insane drive.

Thats from Lands End to John O'Groats, give or take a few miles

In early 90s, I was in northern England installing machine to build computer chips near Newcastle. The speed limits weren't observed on your interstate system, so we did 100 mph plus to and from work. [X(] Here in the USA, 75 to 85 mph is usually tops. I never understood the mixing of metrics (gas was dispensed in liters), but speed limit was mph in many places. I bounced too many times off the curbs going to northern Scotland one weekend. Why have them out in the middle of nowhere?!?

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:37 am
by Smoky Stoker
ORIGINAL: Encircled

To us Brits, thats just an insane drive.

Thats from Lands End to John O'Groats, give or take a few miles

A lot of Uropeens have that problem. When I worked at a hotel in New York City, we had several cases of visitors missing important appointments because they failed to realize that Boston is as far from New York as Hamburg from Berlin. It's such a small distance on a map of the US!

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:01 am
by paullus99
John's in serious trouble in China right now & he doesn't seem to realize the threat. Japanese infantry just can't stand up to late war Allied troops (especially backed with armor) without dense terrain and lots of forts.

As I believe I mentioned last week, this the nightmare "hammer & anvil" scenario in China that JFBs hate - because if there is an intact Chinese Army to deal with on one side & now a well-equipped and supplied Allied Army on the other, it becomes nearly impossible to start losing key bases all along the perimeter.

If you can really start force-feeding supply into Burma & then up into China, it's really Game-Over for his armies there.

I would expect, based on what John is learning right now, that his next game will be substantially different in tone - he's got to get a bit more "well-rounded" when it comes to using his ground forces.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 11:39 am
by Lecivius
Driving from Denver to Seattle next weekend. 1350 miles one way. Methinks my butt bone is gonna feel that one [:(]

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 3:46 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Smoky Stoker

ORIGINAL: Encircled

To us Brits, thats just an insane drive.

Thats from Lands End to John O'Groats, give or take a few miles

A lot of Uropeens have that problem. When I worked at a hotel in New York City, we had several cases of visitors missing important appointments because they failed to realize that Boston is as far from New York as Hamburg from Berlin. It's such a small distance on a map of the US!

I've told a few that NYC to LA is Lisbon to Moscow, give or take. That usually gets their attention.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:04 pm
by Panther Bait
I drove across the US from LA to Boston (southern route, about 3000 miles) in about 3.5-4 days (Thursday evening to Monday noonish) with a friend back in college. The part that really stuck with me was driving through Tennessee (Route 40 & 81) was like 7.5 hours and 500 miles all in one state (midnight to morning).

Of course driving across Texas or California the long way would be even more (800+ miles), but my God, I was happy to get to Virginia. Of course, it was worth it to see the Shenandoah Valley on a beautiful sunny day.

Mike

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:26 pm
by HansBolter
ORIGINAL: Panther Bait

I drove across the US from LA to Boston (southern route, about 3000 miles) in about 3.5-4 days (Thursday evening to Monday noonish) with a friend back in college. The part that really stuck with me was driving through Tennessee (Route 40 & 81) was like 7.5 hours and 500 miles all in one state (midnight to morning).

Of course driving across Texas or California the long way would be even more (800+ miles), but my God, I was happy to get to Virginia. Of course, it was worth it to see the Shenandoah Valley on a beautiful sunny day.

Mike


From the tip of the peninsula to the tip of the panhandle is quite the drive in Florida as well.
The states are big!
Well most of em anyway...Rhode Island, New Jersey and Delaware really don't count.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:00 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: HansBolter

From the tip of the peninsula to the tip of the panhandle is quite the drive in Florida as well.
The states are big!
Well most of em anyway...Rhode Island, New Jersey and Delaware really don't count.

I tried to dimension it for my Spanish opponent recently.

Minnesota is 86,943 sq miles.

Spain is 195,364 sq. miles.

Minnesota is not a particularly large state. Twelfth.

Alaska is 663,267 sq. miles.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:29 pm
by JeffroK
West Australia, 976,790 sq miles.
Pop. about 2.6million.
Queensland is over 715,000 sq m.

On my 3 day trip I did Eucla to Perth in 1 day, 1428km and its mostly flat.
I've also done Darwin to Perth in the back of a Coach in 50hrs.

In a previous job we would get visitors from Head Office in Kansas City. They usually organised to fly out on Sunday and the question would be "If I take Friday off can I see 1) Great Ocean Road, 2) The Grampians, 3) Ayers Rock ???
We soon got one of those maps with the 2 countries overlayed, "Australia cant be that big!!!!!"

But I would be similar in the UK, what only 200 miles away, easy!!

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent

Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:08 pm
by Dirtnap86
I drove from Charlotte, NC down to Gulfport, MS to visit a friend one time. I took my lovely wife with me, who took a nap as she is wont to do in the car. We left around 11pm (hoping to avoid the charlie foxtrot that is Atlanta commute traffic) and she woke up from her nap around 4am. I had only just gotten past the outskirts of Atlanta.

I hate long drives, my time spent doing night driving in the sandbox has soured me to being behind the wheel for more than an hour at a time. I used to love driving, always found it relaxing.