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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:08 am
by Canoerebel
8/5/44
DEI: KB doesn't break for the Pacific ... at least, not yet. She may be drawn to CV Lexington at Boela, charting a course like the one referenced in "Come Sail Away" by Styx.

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 11:26 am
by Canoerebel
8/5/44
Peep Show; Formosa is nearly isolated now. I don't think John can break the "embargo" without KB at this point. Does he see it that way? If so, does he care, or does he find merit in carrier missions far away?

RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:37 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
I would count the Carpenters as "Easy Listening" - I could listen to Karen Carpenter's voice all day and feel the mellow. Had a huge crush on her back in the day, before anorexia took her before she really started her life.
I'd say "Pop." Different genre than "Rock."
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:38 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
For girl crushes in 70s it was Heart and Fleetwood Mac.
Stevie Nicks turned 69 last week. I'm just sayin'. [:'(]
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 12:39 pm
by Bullwinkle58
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Just don't put me in the vicinity of hard, mashing, loud, cacophonous stuff like AC/DC, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, and the Greatful Dead.
The Dead in that group? No way. They were much closer to folk than rock.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 1:48 pm
by crsutton
ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
I agree - the Carpenters are "easy listening." Ya can't put them in the same "rock 'n roll" category as, say, Deff Leopard.
But, back in the day, the Carpenters would be played on Rock stations while Easy Listening stations might play Frank and Nancy' Sinatra's "Something Stupid." There was a line dividing the two - perhaps somewhat random but definite.
There was 70s and 80s rock that I couldn't stand - loud, crashing stuff; but so much of what came out in that era had distinct piano and horns and strings - and vocals - that it was quite lovely. Chicago, ELO, Styxx and dozens of others come to mind.
I suppose our parents easily distinguished between Ray Coniff or Frank Sinatra, on the one hand, and Foreigner or the Doobie Brothers on the other. But I can listen to all of that and find them relaxing. Just don't put me in the vicinity of hard, mashing, loud, cacophonous stuff like AC/DC, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, and the Greatful Dead.
Funny how folks differ. I could not stand any of the 70s and 80s groups that you just mention and don't listen to them this day, and listened to progressive stations that never played them. Course they never played Def Leopard either. I still listen to my 60s, 70 and 80 music today, (The Band, Birds, Graham Parsons, Emmylou Harris, the Dead and the Stones). Now where we converge is that today. I also listen to Sinatra, Peggy Lee, Cab Calloway and alot of other genres that my parents loved. And the miracle of youtube, Pandora and Spotify has exposed me to a lot of new music and old music that I missed. (The Bamboos, Neko Case and Megan Washington come to mind. Check out the Bamboos-and Australian band featuring Megan Washington who's home town happens to be Port Morsby, NG.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMYQNIwH8Es
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:04 pm
by Canoerebel
Emmylou Harris was (and is) fantastic, though back in the day only Country stations played her songs.
Dan Fogelburg is another of my favorites.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 5:28 pm
by JeffroK
Another Dan Fogelburg Fan,
When single I bought an album, after getting married I discovered the same album in my wife's collection.
I was a big John Denver fan, but also heavily into to Irish (trad), could belt out many tune in Gaelic.
In my old age I've mellowed and appreciate Queen and a few others that I wouldnt tough in my youth. Plus I love good Classical music, so travelling with me is a real mix of genre.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 9:34 pm
by JohnDillworth
I saw what you did there with the 70's song lyrics
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 9:42 pm
by JohnDillworth
My favorite 70's song. Best version....Arlo Guthrie:
Riding on the city of New Orleans
Illinois Central, Monday morning rail
Fifteen cars and fifteen restless riders
Three conductors and twenty-five sacks of mail
All along the southbound odyssey
The train pulled out at Kankakee
And rolls along past houses, farms and fields
Passin' trains that have no names
And freight yards full of old black men
And the graveyards of the rusted automobiles
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
And I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Dealin' card games with the old men in the club car
Penny a point ain't no one keepin' score
Pass the paper bag that holds the bottle
Feel the wheels rumblin' 'neath the floor
And the sons of Pullman Porters
And the sons of engineers
Ride their father's magic carpet made of steel
Mothers with their babes asleep
Are rockin' to the gentle beat
And the rhythm of the rail is all they feel
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Nighttime on the city of New Orleans
Changing cars in Memphis, Tennessee
Half way home, we'll be there by morning
Through the Mississippi darkness
Rolling down to the sea
But all the towns and people seem
To fade into a bad dream
And the steel rails still ain't heard the news
The conductor sings his songs again
The passengers will please refrain
This train has got the disappearing railroad blues
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:19 pm
by CaptBeefheart
They call that genre "Yacht Rock" nowadays. Stuff like Gerry Rafferty, the Doobie Brothers, Toto, England Dan and John Ford Coley.
Cheers,
CC
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:36 pm
by Canoerebel
There is a moment frozen in time: Early 1970s. My father watching the evening news. The news closes with short video of a street guitarist seated by the surface entrance to a subway tunnel in Paris, France. The guitarist is singing "City of New Orleans." Haunting. Absolutely haunting.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 10:48 pm
by crsutton
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
My favorite 70's song. Best version....Arlo Guthrie:
Riding on the city of New Orleans
Illinois Central, Monday morning rail
Fifteen cars and fifteen restless riders
Three conductors and twenty-five sacks of mail
All along the southbound odyssey
The train pulled out at Kankakee
And rolls along past houses, farms and fields
Passin' trains that have no names
And freight yards full of old black men
And the graveyards of the rusted automobiles
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
And I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Dealin' card games with the old men in the club car
Penny a point ain't no one keepin' score
Pass the paper bag that holds the bottle
Feel the wheels rumblin' 'neath the floor
And the sons of Pullman Porters
And the sons of engineers
Ride their father's magic carpet made of steel
Mothers with their babes asleep
Are rockin' to the gentle beat
And the rhythm of the rail is all they feel
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Nighttime on the city of New Orleans
Changing cars in Memphis, Tennessee
Half way home, we'll be there by morning
Through the Mississippi darkness
Rolling down to the sea
But all the towns and people seem
To fade into a bad dream
And the steel rails still ain't heard the news
The conductor sings his songs again
The passengers will please refrain
This train has got the disappearing railroad blues
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Steve Goodman wrote that song and a lot of other fine tunes. Guthrie's version was a great one. Goodman died very young of cancer.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 12:15 am
by Smoky Stoker
It is odd how congruent the eclectic musical tastes of war gamers tend to be. I have never liked Frank Sinatra, but that is because I worked in hotels and meeting him professionally kept me from enjoying his work. You may have seen Jefferson Davis' quote "Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty"? Mr. Sinatra had it reversed.
My favorite single piece of music - this year, it changes - is Pachelbel's Canon in D by an ensemble named Voice of Music;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3uh75-OXQo
A few years ago it was "Yerushalayim shel Zahav", which, like Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah", is such a good song that there are a lot of bad cuts of it out there;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnPInqMUSJ8
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:23 am
by JeffroK
ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth
My favorite 70's song. Best version....Arlo Guthrie:
Riding on the city of New Orleans
Illinois Central, Monday morning rail
Fifteen cars and fifteen restless riders
Three conductors and twenty-five sacks of mail
All along the southbound odyssey
The train pulled out at Kankakee
And rolls along past houses, farms and fields
Passin' trains that have no names
And freight yards full of old black men
And the graveyards of the rusted automobiles
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
And I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Dealin' card games with the old men in the club car
Penny a point ain't no one keepin' score
Pass the paper bag that holds the bottle
Feel the wheels rumblin' 'neath the floor
And the sons of Pullman Porters
And the sons of engineers
Ride their father's magic carpet made of steel
Mothers with their babes asleep
Are rockin' to the gentle beat
And the rhythm of the rail is all they feel
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Nighttime on the city of New Orleans
Changing cars in Memphis, Tennessee
Half way home, we'll be there by morning
Through the Mississippi darkness
Rolling down to the sea
But all the towns and people seem
To fade into a bad dream
And the steel rails still ain't heard the news
The conductor sings his songs again
The passengers will please refrain
This train has got the disappearing railroad blues
Good morning, America
How are you?
Say don't you know me? I'm your native son
I'm the train they call the city of New Orleans
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done
Steve Goodman wrote that song and a lot of other fine tunes. Guthrie's version was a great one. Goodman died very young of cancer.
Steve Goodman with input from John Denver, at least according to his Biography.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:33 am
by JohnDillworth
Steve Goodman wrote that song and a lot of other fine tunes. Guthrie's version was a great one. Goodman died very young of cancer.
The way I heard the story is Guthrie was performing in a bar and Goodman said I have a song you might want to record. Guthrie said "buy me a beer, and I listen to your song for as long as it takes me to finish that beer". Needless to say he decided to record the song well before that beer was done.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 4:57 pm
by Dirtnap86
Well I'm likely the odd man out musically here, probably because I'm a youngin'. I switch the radio between a station that plays 70s-90s 'classic' rock and another that plays modern alternative rock. The sounds you can't stand lull me to sleep at night, CR. You'd think a guy that spent 8 years playing classical trumpet would have better taste eh [:D]
In other news, for my fellow vets out here, I hope your Memorial Day is going well.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 10:44 pm
by Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: Smoky Stoker
It is odd how congruent the eclectic musical tastes of war gamers tend to be. I have never liked Frank Sinatra, but that is because I worked in hotels and meeting him professionally kept me from enjoying his work. You may have seen Jefferson Davis' quote "Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty"? Mr. Sinatra had it reversed.
My favorite single piece of music - this year, it changes - is Pachelbel's Canon in D by an ensemble named Voice of Music;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3uh75-OXQo
A few years ago it was "Yerushalayim shel Zahav", which, like Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah", is such a good song that there are a lot of bad cuts of it out there;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnPInqMUSJ8
I could go the rest of my life without ever hearing Pachelbel anything and be A-OK.
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 3:27 am
by JeffroK
I recently discovered Sissel, a beautiful lady from Norway with an even more beautiful voice.
SHENANDOAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1EG_4IBzbA
I was actually searching for Paddy Maloney [8D]
RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent
Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 5:25 am
by JohnDillworth
thanks for that, it was pretty good